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bertrann92
October 1st, 2008, 09:09 AM
Concert info obtained through Ticketmaster by Mishlkay TH AMERICA

1. (LN)- Fast lane members get to go in ahead of everyone. And those tickets are the only ones that will get you in first!

2. (TM) VIP tickets are exactly what they say online. Nothing more. VIP tickets do not go in ahead of everyone like the fast line tickets do. I repeat VIP tickets do not go in first! They are in the same line as people who bought regular tickets from TM. Ticket master tickets have one line for all Ticketmaster buyers.

3. As far as which is closer, VIP vs. GA floor :GA floor is closer to the stage! VIP is off to the side!

4. Policies: No cameras, bottles, cans, or recording equipment are allowed! I don't know how tight security is about that, but they the guy I talked to from ticketmaster said, if security isn't too strict you might be able to sneak a camera in.

Link for tickets
http://www.livenation.com/event/getEvent/eventId/338189/

AndIBelieve
October 1st, 2008, 02:11 PM
I want to go but I don't know yet.

xdeadbydawn
October 1st, 2008, 02:35 PM
I'm going!

my hair will be fully pink!
<3

ray_ray2384
October 1st, 2008, 03:13 PM
MOI!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D I'm expecting to see some familiar faces!!!!!!! i'll be sporting a new hairstyle as well. ahhhhhhhh!!!!!! this show is gonna be so much fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

THlover0593
October 1st, 2008, 04:20 PM
yea im planning on going. i was gonna buy the presale tickets but they're going on sale tomorrow anyway but i can't wait to see them again! :D

hypergal
October 1st, 2008, 07:14 PM
I MIGHT GO FOR MY BIRTHDAY!! who wants to celebrate mit mich? XD And are there seats or do you stand? Cause the website confused me AND my mom. But there was a thing about backstage/VIP tickets...I doubt they do them for TH but my mom e-mailed the person so we'll find out! ;)

bertrann92
October 1st, 2008, 08:26 PM
i got my presale tixs :D :D

Gothic Empress
October 1st, 2008, 08:56 PM
I don't know if I can go :( i have to ask my parents, then my boss (i just started a new job) and my TH partner Sarah, it on a Thursday, kind of tricky for me. I see what i can do, if not if there is a signing i would go. LADIES PRAY FOR ME!

bertrann92
October 1st, 2008, 09:10 PM
may the lord *bill kaulitz* be with u lol

Hey michaela i need to noe whatz tom's hat size

Gothic Empress
October 1st, 2008, 10:07 PM
Lol thanks.

I have asked my parents, they said yes :D , now i have to ask my boss (she very nice and letly loves me! lol) and my cousin. then my life would be lovely-ish.

I wonder how big this Roseland place is, bigger then Starland, am sure. nervous again, bah.

xdeadbydawn
October 1st, 2008, 11:44 PM
Lol thanks.

I have asked my parents, they said yes :D , now i have to ask my boss (she very nice and letly loves me! lol) and my cousin. then my life would be lovely-ish.

I wonder how big this Roseland place is, bigger then Starland, am sure. nervous again, bah.

it's HUGE.
bigger than the fillmore and starland.
max. capacity is 3,500 -- 2 floors. be prepare to get a guarantee pulverize.

SpaceDementia
October 2nd, 2008, 12:20 AM
Pip pip, I am coming!!

Hopefully the 'rents are allowing me to ditch school :ugeek:

jacellyy
October 2nd, 2008, 01:05 AM
woot!
i'm going, i already got my pre-sale tickets. =)))
can't wait...

Porsche12212
October 2nd, 2008, 01:40 AM
Got my tix 10 minutes after they were put online! lol I can't wait!

EureSchatzi18
October 2nd, 2008, 09:30 AM
This is so freaking awesome! It sorta came outta left field but i was #145 to get my ticket! WOOO who&#39;s excited!

juicyjin
October 2nd, 2008, 10:07 AM
OMG this is sooo awesome. but huge problem. i have no one to go with. is anyone goin by themselves? does anyone even go by themselves? T.T

xdeadbydawn
October 2nd, 2008, 10:18 AM
OMG this is sooo awesome. but huge problem. i have no one to go with. is anyone goin by themselves? does anyone even go by themselves? T.T

i'm going with a huge group of people and we're going to the philly show the day before.

i'm pretty sure you'll make lots of tokio hotel friends. (make sure they're not CFFs-in-denial cause that'd be an embarrassment to you and tokio hotel fans)

<3

juicyjin
October 2nd, 2008, 11:05 AM
what are CFF's? crazy somthin fans? LOL. newho thanks deadbydawn. <3
i bought my ticket and ima go alone if i hav to.
what are yu guys gon wear? (should that be a new topic? idk)
ooooh~ im sooo excited! :D :D :D

xdeadbydawn
October 2nd, 2008, 11:50 AM
what are CFF's? crazy somthin fans? LOL. newho thanks deadbydawn. <3
i bought my ticket and ima go alone if i hav to.
what are yu guys gon wear? (should that be a new topic? idk)
ooooh~ im sooo excited! :D :D :D

not necessarily to start a new one.

for the new york one?
lol possibly a dress with shorts underneath it.
im most likely going as a vampire.

goldeneyedvampire
October 2nd, 2008, 03:49 PM
crap I cant go, my parents hate the city and refuse to go in the middle of the week. And i have no friends to go with since I have no friends who like Tokio Hotel.

Love_is_Dead_x
October 2nd, 2008, 04:00 PM
I'm going! :D I already have my tickets. I was number 142 ;)
And yeah, it's standing room... The site confused me too, so I called the place and they said it was standing room. =)

gabrielaax
October 2nd, 2008, 04:02 PM
im going! what time are you guys going?
im planning on going wayy early in the am
but my mom wants me to go to school :roll:

screw that
i probably wont go to school
or ill just skip school :twisted:

jacellyy
October 2nd, 2008, 04:35 PM
aah, i'm scared that i'll get stepped on since i'm really short and weak.
lmao. ughhh, i'm gna get there reallllly late, like around 2.
:[ i hate my mom for not letting me skip school just one day.

Gothic Empress
October 2nd, 2008, 05:14 PM
God, the Bill K has answered my prayers!

I'm going and i don't have to work, yay, but the drag is that my cousin has to work, were taking a train from Westfield, NJ to NYC around 12ish. any join a group? I'll be wearing my tiara again, for just for the **** of it, and NOT book this time, gossshh that was a pain in the ***.

Question, I got VIP tickets, is like that of Starland, at Starland, i didn't get it, so now i did and it burnt a hole in my pocket, but is soo wrath it, i love these boys!

SpaceDementia
October 2nd, 2008, 05:29 PM
I bought tickets today and they didn't explicitly say Fast Lane (which is like Starparking at Starland Ballroom) but I THINK they are.... :?


And also, this ticket added up to quite a pretty penny with all the extra charges :evil:

vatefairefoutre
October 2nd, 2008, 05:47 PM
aah I wish I could go! I have seen them in NYC before... but this time I don't have the money or time to travel 17 hours by car or get a plane. and I don't think they are coming to Chicago or anywhere like that this time around... oh well!

somebody going to this wear cat ears for Halloween and claw and meow at Tom for me! bitte? :lol:

SpaceDementia
October 2nd, 2008, 05:49 PM
aah I wish I could go! I have seen them in NYC before... but this time I don't have the money or time to travel 17 hours by car or get a plane. and I don't think they are coming to Chicago or anywhere like that this time around... oh well!

somebody going to this wear cat ears for Halloween and claw and meow at Tom for me! bitte? :lol:

Ummmm done. :twisted:

vatefairefoutre
October 2nd, 2008, 06:30 PM
aah I wish I could go! I have seen them in NYC before... but this time I don't have the money or time to travel 17 hours by car or get a plane. and I don't think they are coming to Chicago or anywhere like that this time around... oh well!

somebody going to this wear cat ears for Halloween and claw and meow at Tom for me! bitte? :lol:

Ummmm done. :twisted:

YAY JACKIE! <3

I will still totally be there in spirit though. of course. :lol:

berthaxoxo
October 2nd, 2008, 07:48 PM
hi I have a question what is better the presale tix? or the vip tix?
If someone can answer me I would really appreciate

xomicaelaa2792
October 2nd, 2008, 09:17 PM
I'm going! ;) can't wait to see all of you there!!! :D

AndIBelieve
October 3rd, 2008, 08:49 AM
hi I have a question what is better the presale tix? or the vip tix?
If someone can answer me I would really appreciate
I was wondering, too, I have both but I don't know which one to use.

veekay03
October 3rd, 2008, 11:05 AM
Is anyone from the Philly area going to the NY show? I got tickets for the Philly show, but now I want to get a VIP ticket for the NY show. I'm not sure how the best way to get to NY would be though...

iilyRein
October 3rd, 2008, 03:59 PM
I MIGHT go : )

but its a school night and not to mention I have to take the TACHS test the next week =.=;

my friends already bought tickets :cry:

Kammy&Wwe
October 3rd, 2008, 08:58 PM
My Mom said i could go and i got
the money for it but...
I can't find a Ticketmaster in Brooklyn
or in New York City.... :?

Help!!!
Anybody

Gothic Empress
October 3rd, 2008, 09:38 PM
Try online, kiddo! ;) :)

Ticketmaster (http://www.ticketmaster.com/)

xdeadbydawn
October 3rd, 2008, 10:24 PM
Is anyone from the Philly area going to the NY show? I got tickets for the Philly show, but now I want to get a VIP ticket for the NY show. I'm not sure how the best way to get to NY would be though...

:)

I'm going to the Philly AND the New York showwww.

sdsnrr
October 3rd, 2008, 11:04 PM
so i live in canada and soo cant go :( but i am sad there are no canadian dates what are vip tickets canada dosent have them :S do all the concerts have vip tickets LOL and what time do you guys plan on going at??? i wish i could go but my parents would never let me go to NYC and wait in line i can imagine people will wait in line over night ja?? they are that big in americas right?? in canada not many ppl would waight over night manybey 1 :P

ilovetokiohotel1565
October 3rd, 2008, 11:38 PM
I just found this out Roseland Ballroom

general Rules:
No cameras, bottles, cans, or recording equipment are allowed.




:shock: :? :shock: Will the boys bend the rules to allow cameras?



aww no cameras? ****. =[
im kind of scared for the showw. ive never been to a full concert, (i just went to the virgin megastore signing) and i heard it gets crazy. i dont want to get squashed lol. is anyone else going? is anyone on the fastlane so i wont be alone..=]

Gothic Empress
October 3rd, 2008, 11:45 PM
I just found this out Roseland Ballroom

general Rules:
No cameras, bottles, cans, or recording equipment are allowed.




:shock: :? :shock: Will the boys bend the rules to allow cameras?

Kammy&Wwe
October 4th, 2008, 10:58 AM
Try online, kiddo! ;) :)

Ticketmaster (http://www.ticketmaster.com/)

But buddie i dont want order it
i wanna go buy it
but it all the way in Manhattan..ewww ( dont wanna go there no a days)
and the computer said u can buy tickets in Macy's << WTF
:?:

kasspouete
October 4th, 2008, 11:07 AM
I'm going. I bought VIP package ticket, but i don't know if it's a good ticket. Who know this kind of ticket?
Are you near the stage?

xomicaelaa2792
October 4th, 2008, 11:41 AM
I'm going. I bought VIP package ticket, but i don't know if it's a good ticket. Who know this kind of ticket?
Are you near the stage?

nope
you're on the balcony..
and u get a table to yourself.

xdeadbydawn
October 4th, 2008, 11:52 AM
Try online, kiddo! ;) :)

Ticketmaster (http://www.ticketmaster.com/)

But buddie i dont want order it
i wanna go buy it
but it all the way in Manhattan..ewww ( dont wanna go there no a days)
and the computer said u can buy tickets in Macy's << WTF
:?:

yea you can... as long your macy's have a ticketmaster booth.

Kammy&Wwe
October 4th, 2008, 11:57 AM
Try online, kiddo! ;) :)

Ticketmaster (http://www.ticketmaster.com/)

But buddie i dont want order it
i wanna go buy it
but it all the way in Manhattan..ewww ( dont wanna go there no a days)
and the computer said u can buy tickets in Macy's << WTF
:?:

yea you can... as long your macy's have a ticketmaster booth.

ooo coolz
thanks beautiful

xomicaelaa2792
October 4th, 2008, 11:57 AM
i cant wait. 8-)

kasspouete
October 4th, 2008, 12:10 PM
I'm going. I bought VIP package ticket, but i don't know if it's a good ticket. Who know this kind of ticket?
Are you near the stage?

nope
you're on the balcony..
and u get a table to yourself.

no, i'm on the floor
Seat location: section FLOOR

$52 VIP Package includes - one ticket to the show, a pass to sit on the VIP side stage & a poster created exclusively for this event.

xomicaelaa2792
October 4th, 2008, 12:16 PM
I'm going. I bought VIP package ticket, but i don't know if it's a good ticket. Who know this kind of ticket?
Are you near the stage?

nope
you're on the balcony..
and u get a table to yourself.

no, i'm on the floor
Seat location: section FLOOR

$52 VIP Package includes - one ticket to the show, a pass to sit on the VIP side stage & a poster created exclusively for this event.

oh haha, thats cool then.
well my friend Lauren
got VIP tickets for $300
and she gets a table for 4 people
and its on the balcony.

AndIBelieve
October 4th, 2008, 01:14 PM
I have a VIP and Fast Lane ticket.

ilovetokiohotel1565
October 4th, 2008, 02:00 PM
im so exciteddd =]].
i cant waitt.
i have fast lane ticketss.
anyone else have fast lane tickets?

xomicaelaa2792
October 4th, 2008, 02:13 PM
I have a VIP and Fast Lane ticket.

weren't you like not allowed to go?

xomicaelaa2792
October 4th, 2008, 02:22 PM
im so exciteddd =]].
i cant waitt.
i have fast lane ticketss.
anyone else have fast lane tickets?

me :D

MCR150
October 4th, 2008, 03:40 PM
how do you know if you have fastlane tickets? i got the live nation tickets but im not sure if they are fastlane or not, cause i got them in the presale.

xomicaelaa2792
October 4th, 2008, 06:14 PM
how do you know if you have fastlane tickets? i got the live nation tickets but im not sure if they are fastlane or not, cause i got them in the presale.
yeah. Me to.
well my friend said those are the fast lane
tickets :D

October 4th, 2008, 07:26 PM
how do you know if you have fastlane tickets? i got the live nation tickets but im not sure if they are fastlane or not, cause i got them in the presale.
yeah. Me to.
well my friend said those are the fast lane
tickets :D
They are.
Because.. Live Nation.. is like their " concert " thinger... like it's " made possible by - "

yeah.
O_O

Gothic Empress
October 4th, 2008, 08:38 PM
I have a VIP and Fast Lane ticket.


I got VIP tickets too, but does that include Fast lane? I got my tickets at Ticket master, there was noting of fast lane? :?

bertrann92
October 4th, 2008, 08:39 PM
I called Ticketmaster, and Live Nation yesterday, and here is the info I got:

1. (LN)- Fast lane members get to go in ahead of everyone. And those tickets are the only ones that will get you in first!

2. (TM) VIP tickets are exactly what they say online. Nothing more. VIP tickets do not go in ahead of everyone like the fast line tickets do. I repeat VIP tickets do not go in first! They are in the same line as people who bought regular tickets from TM. Ticket master tickets have one line for all Ticketmaster buyers.

3. As far as which is closer, VIP vs. GA floor :GA floor is closer to the stage! VIP is off to the side!

4. Policies: No cameras, bottles, cans, or recording equipment are allowed! I don't know how tight security is about that, but they the guy I talked to from ticketmaster said, if security isn't too strict you might be able to sneak a camera in.

posted by Mishlkay TH AMERICA

Gothic Empress
October 4th, 2008, 08:42 PM
**** it, so not going to be close, even if i got VIP tickets, **** it! :( :evil: :cry:

kasspouete
October 4th, 2008, 10:38 PM
**** it, so not going to be close, even if i got VIP tickets, **** it! :( :evil: :cry:


i have the same probleme, i think i will buy a other ticket on live nation for enter in first

MCR150
October 4th, 2008, 11:09 PM
omg THANK GOD. i was so scared cause i have to go to school that day, and i thought i would be nowhere close. you know what i wanna know? if the tickets went on sale on thursday for a 3000 person venue, why are they not sold out yet?

Gothic Empress
October 4th, 2008, 11:14 PM
At Starland, there were about 700 people there, the place was made for 300, I was wondering why the tickets weren't sold out yet, possibly still unknown in America. but it the money thing, people payed at the door for less.

but there people got tickets at the door for less money. thats possibly wants going to happen at Roseland.

JumbieLover
October 4th, 2008, 11:56 PM
**** it, so not going to be close, even if i got VIP tickets, **** it! :( :evil: :cry:


i have the same probleme, i think i will buy a other ticket on live nation for enter in first
But VIP gets you into a different section. You won't be in the same section as the people who bought regular tickets.

CaitlinCatastrophe
October 5th, 2008, 12:16 AM
**** it, so not going to be close, even if i got VIP tickets, **** it! :( :evil: :cry:


i have the same probleme, i think i will buy a other ticket on live nation for enter in first
But VIP gets you into a different section. You won't be in the same section as the people who bought regular tickets.
So is it a good section? Like are the people who didn't get VIP going to be sad?

xdeadbydawn
October 5th, 2008, 12:50 AM
So is it a good section? Like are the people who didn't get VIP going to be sad?

no.
VIP = BALCONY SECTION = FAR FROM THE BAND

sorry vip people... but you aren't gonna get near the band.

Gothic Empress
October 5th, 2008, 01:30 AM
If TRUE thats for making me feel worse! :evil: very nasty of you as well.

actually, VIP is on a stage - it's level with their stage. and when i got my tickets, it said "on the VIP side stage", and possibly WE have a better chance of meeting them after the concert, (yes, i can be nasty too). :ugeek:

xdeadbydawn
October 5th, 2008, 02:19 AM
If TRUE thats for making me feel worse! :evil: very nasty of you as well.

actually, VIP is on a stage - it's level with their stage. and when i got my tickets, it said "on the VIP side stage", and possibly WE have a better chance of meeting them after the concert, (yes, i can be nasty too). :ugeek:

lol nope. ive been to roseland before for the a.f.i and i know how the floor plan works :p

it's not leveled with the stage. it's to the side.
think of it as a ballroom.

kasspouete
October 5th, 2008, 10:51 AM
i bought two tickets, if i don't like my place on the floor, i will go on the side

i have a question, i'm from canada and i don't know how it's in USA
Do you can to sleep in the street for to be first? When i went to starland, nobody was before 9AM in the line

Do you undertsand what i want to ask haha , my english is very bad!

kasspouete
October 5th, 2008, 10:54 AM
If TRUE thats for making me feel worse! :evil: very nasty of you as well.

actually, VIP is on a stage - it's level with their stage. and when i got my tickets, it said "on the VIP side stage", and possibly WE have a better chance of meeting them after the concert, (yes, i can be nasty too). :ugeek:

really? I hope that it's true, it cost expensive that ticket!! :evil:

JumbieLover
October 5th, 2008, 11:50 AM
I'm glad I bought the VIP balcony tickets. I don't want to be in that crowd. And if I'm not close to the band, big whoop.

juicyjin
October 5th, 2008, 11:53 AM
so i bought a regular ticket. does that mean its like first come first serve?
so if im lucky enough to get in first that i get to choose where i stand?

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 5th, 2008, 11:54 AM
I called Ticketmaster, and Live Nation yesterday, and here is the info I got:

1. (LN)- Fast lane members get to go in ahead of everyone. And those tickets are the only ones that will get you in first!

2. (TM) VIP tickets are exactly what they say online. Nothing more. VIP tickets do not go in ahead of everyone like the fast line tickets do. I repeat VIP tickets do not go in first! They are in the same line as people who bought regular tickets from TM. Ticket master tickets have one line for all Ticketmaster buyers.

3. As far as which is closer, VIP vs. GA floor :GA floor is closer to the stage! VIP is off to the side!

4. Policies: No cameras, bottles, cans, or recording equipment are allowed! I don't know how tight security is about that, but they the guy I talked to from ticketmaster said, if security isn't too strict you might be able to sneak a camera in.

posted by Mishlkay TH AMERICA
i got the VIP tix...does that mean that i wont b able 2 c the concert as good? :cry:

AndIBelieve
October 5th, 2008, 12:20 PM
I'm glad I bought the VIP balcony tickets. I don't want to be in that crowd. And if I'm not close to the band, big whoop.
Me, too. I'd rather be safe and comfortable than close to the band.

Gothic Empress
October 5th, 2008, 12:28 PM
If TRUE thats for making me feel worse! :evil: very nasty of you as well.

actually, VIP is on a stage - it's level with their stage. and when i got my tickets, it said "on the VIP side stage", and possibly WE have a better chance of meeting them after the concert, (yes, i can be nasty too). :ugeek:

lol nope. ive been to roseland before for the a.f.i and i know how the floor plan works :p

it's not leveled with the stage. it's to the side.
think of it as a ballroom.


Oh, ok. :oops: Sorry that i was rude, too. :oops: and I really doubt the meeting the band it an ify for anyone, you just get a poster. and Sorry People for my outburst. Please forgive me. :oops:

JumbieLover
October 5th, 2008, 12:52 PM
I'm glad I bought the VIP balcony tickets. I don't want to be in that crowd. And if I'm not close to the band, big whoop.
Me, too. I'd rather be safe and comfortable than close to the band.
Yeah and I bought the balcony ones, so I know they are looking straight at the stage. I should have a good view. I dunno about those of you that have the side stage ones.

JumbieLover
October 5th, 2008, 12:53 PM
so i bought a regular ticket. does that mean its like first come first serve?
so if im lucky enough to get in first that i get to choose where i stand?
Yes, but most likely you won't stay in that spot. There is a lot of pushing and people from the back will try to take your spot.

AndIBelieve
October 5th, 2008, 12:54 PM
I'm glad I bought the VIP balcony tickets. I don't want to be in that crowd. And if I'm not close to the band, big whoop.
Me, too. I'd rather be safe and comfortable than close to the band.
Yeah and I bought the balcony ones, so I know they are looking straight at the stage. I should have a good view. I dunno about those of you that have the side stage ones.
Where do you buy the balcony ones?

JumbieLover
October 5th, 2008, 12:55 PM
Where do you buy the balcony ones?
They are $400. I don't think your parents will want you spending any more money :lol:

AndIBelieve
October 5th, 2008, 01:14 PM
Where do you buy the balcony ones?
They are $400. I don't think your parents will want you spending any more money :lol:
Oh are they the table ones?

JumbieLover
October 5th, 2008, 01:40 PM
Where do you buy the balcony ones?
They are $400. I don't think your parents will want you spending any more money :lol:
Oh are they the table ones?
uh huh.

Gothic Empress
October 5th, 2008, 03:43 PM
This is getting on my nerves, i know it stupid to get upset about, but i'm getting confused and creaky over it. sorry people.

Ok, I found this photo of Roseland Ballroom, of a concert.

And since "On the side stage?" or "balcony". possibly it both? :?

i map it out.

pix of Roseland (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/DSCN2034-795978.jpg)

AndIBelieve
October 5th, 2008, 03:52 PM
This is getting on my nerves, i know it stupid to get upset about, but i'm getting confused and creaky over it. sorry people.

Ok, I found this photo of Roseland Ballroom, of a concert.

And since "On the side stage?" or "balcony". possibly it both? :?

i map it out.

pix of Roseland (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/DSCN2034-795978.jpg)
Oh okay. It's on the balcony I knew that. It's far away from the stage but at least it's safe. I'm happy.

Gothic Empress
October 5th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Hopefully with VIP tickets, we maybe and saying IF get a chance to meet the boys, that would be soo awesome and worth it!
I'm still kind of ****** that it that far way, but at least it far way from the pit, i nearly got crash to death by a huge guy at Starland and I was only on the edge of it!

JumbieLover
October 5th, 2008, 06:43 PM
There are two different VIP tickets. The ones you guys bought are off to the side. The ones I bought are on the balcony. Yours are not.

And I doubt we'll get to meet the boys because we bought VIP tickets.

Kammy&Wwe
October 5th, 2008, 06:45 PM
U guys r making me jealous
ahhahahah :lol:
but can u see them from the balcony
im confused a little

Gothic Empress
October 5th, 2008, 07:11 PM
And I doubt we'll get to meet the boys because we bought VIP tickets.

It an ify. At Starland, some girls that had Starlandparking meet the boys, possibly that they stayed in the venue instead of going outside. It possible, VIP or not.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 5th, 2008, 07:29 PM
There are two different VIP tickets. The ones you guys bought are off to the side. The ones I bought are on the balcony. Yours are not.

And I doubt we'll get to meet the boys because we bought VIP tickets.
if uve evr been thr b4, can u c good from the VIP section?

bertrann92
October 5th, 2008, 07:39 PM
Concert promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6mEWoawMqs

JumbieLover
October 5th, 2008, 07:50 PM
And I doubt we'll get to meet the boys because we bought VIP tickets.

It an ify. At Starland, some girls that had Starlandparking meet the boys, possibly that they stayed in the venue instead of going outside. It possible, VIP or not.
I had StarParking, and I didn't meet the boys.

JumbieLover
October 5th, 2008, 07:51 PM
There are two different VIP tickets. The ones you guys bought are off to the side. The ones I bought are on the balcony. Yours are not.

And I doubt we'll get to meet the boys because we bought VIP tickets.
if uve evr been thr b4, can u c good from the VIP section?
I've never been there. But from what someone says, it's not level with the stage. But I wouldn't know.

Gothic Empress
October 5th, 2008, 07:58 PM
And I doubt we'll get to meet the boys because we bought VIP tickets.

It an ify. At Starland, some girls that had Starlandparking meet the boys, possibly that they stayed in the venue instead of going outside. It possible, VIP or not.
I had StarParking, and I didn't meet the boys.



SOME girls, not everyone with Starparking.

It still an MAYBE and it possible, it not impossible! ;)

xdeadbydawn
October 5th, 2008, 08:03 PM
SOME girls, not everyone with Starparking.

It still an MAYBE and it possible, it not impossible! ;)

i think you mean the people with meet & greet. :p

Gothic Empress
October 5th, 2008, 08:35 PM
SOME girls, not everyone with Starparking.

It still an MAYBE and it possible, it not impossible! ;)

i think you mean the people with meet & greet. :p


there was a meet and greet? really? I didn't heard of one that day.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 5th, 2008, 08:37 PM
i wonder if theyll have a signing a day or so after the concert

Gothic Empress
October 5th, 2008, 08:52 PM
they did, but what i meant is that i know that some girls were at Starland after or (before?) the show, i don't know if it was a meet and greet.

it doesn't really matter know, i should really try to forget about the concert until Oct 26, it starting to annoying me since, VIP standing sections sounds suckish!

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 5th, 2008, 08:56 PM
they did, but what i meant is that i know that some girls were at Starland after or (before?) the show, i don't know if it was a meet and greet.

it doesn't really matter know, i should really try to forget about the concert until Oct 26, it starting to annoying me since, VIP standing sections sounds suckish!
yea, do u have vip, 2?

Gothic Empress
October 5th, 2008, 08:57 PM
yep.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 5th, 2008, 08:58 PM
i dont get y they charge $20 xtra 4 a suckish spot :roll:

EureSchatzi18
October 5th, 2008, 09:00 PM
So question, what time is everyone starting the line up or has anyone called the venue to see about what time we can start???? And has anyone heard about any meet and greets yet????

Gothic Empress
October 5th, 2008, 09:01 PM
the poster, my guess. the VIP is above the crowd, and possibly level out, that everyone that standing on the VIP side stage thingy or what ever it is, see better? but NOT close to stage, i was hoping to get splashed with Georg's water bottle again, oh well.

Gothic Empress
October 5th, 2008, 09:02 PM
So question, what time is everyone starting the line up or has anyone called the venue to see about what time we can start???? And has anyone heard about any meet and greets yet????


I have no clue, but the doors open at 7 pm.

xdeadbydawn
October 5th, 2008, 09:06 PM
So question, what time is everyone starting the line up or has anyone called the venue to see about what time we can start???? And has anyone heard about any meet and greets yet????

I'm going to the Philly show and we're driving overnight to Roseland... so I'm lining up the day before. :)

ilovetokiohotel1565
October 5th, 2008, 09:23 PM
i wish i can get there earlier but i have school =[.
im thinking of excuses to skip =]

EureSchatzi18
October 6th, 2008, 12:39 PM
The day before????? I am just wondering how early they will actually let us, its not like starland where theres nothing else going on, theres like businesses so i dunno, they might kick us out! til later but i am getting there around 7am! so its gonna be interesting! And june is that you?????

CrazyKenya16
October 6th, 2008, 03:02 PM
-raises hand-

I will be attending

ray_ray2384
October 6th, 2008, 07:55 PM
-raises hand-

I will be attending




yeah!!!!!! :D how early are you getting there?

xdeadbydawn
October 6th, 2008, 11:13 PM
The day before????? I am just wondering how early they will actually let us, its not like starland where theres nothing else going on, theres like businesses so i dunno, they might kick us out! til later but i am getting there around 7am! so its gonna be interesting! And june is that you?????

yes it is I...!... JUNE :p
who art thou?

and yes they don't mind like starland. i personally went to roseland and ask them.

Love_is_Dead_x
October 7th, 2008, 05:43 PM
I have a feeling I'm going to get an awful spot. =[
I'm in New Jersey, and I have to go to school, first of all.... And then I have to take a bus all the way to New York. :(

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 7th, 2008, 05:55 PM
I have a feeling I'm going to get an awful spot. =[
I'm in New Jersey, and I have to go to school, first of all.... And then I have to take a bus all the way to New York. :(
same her, but my mom might let me skip school that day

ilovetokiohotel1565
October 7th, 2008, 06:35 PM
The day before????? I am just wondering how early they will actually let us, its not like starland where theres nothing else going on, theres like businesses so i dunno, they might kick us out! til later but i am getting there around 7am! so its gonna be interesting! And june is that you?????

yes it is I...!... JUNE :p
who art thou?

and yes they don't mind like starland. i personally went to roseland and ask them.



you went to roseland already?
r they strict on the no cameras rule?

ray_ray2384
October 7th, 2008, 08:00 PM
The day before????? I am just wondering how early they will actually let us, its not like starland where theres nothing else going on, theres like businesses so i dunno, they might kick us out! til later but i am getting there around 7am! so its gonna be interesting! And june is that you?????

yes it is I...!... JUNE :p
who art thou?

and yes they don't mind like starland. i personally went to roseland and ask them.



you went to roseland already?
r they strict on the no cameras rule?



i was with june when she went to roseland. we didn't ask. i'll be in nyc this sat. i'll try to ask then. heck, i'll just call!! lol!!!

Gothic Empress
October 7th, 2008, 08:10 PM
I feel sorry for you guys that have school, i don' work thought, but my cousin does, i have to wait around 12 to go.

I hope this cheers VIP people up, I found the floor plan for Roseland: (I e-mail the the Director of Roseland Ballroom, she says it a great view). :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/23865s.gif

AndIBelieve
October 7th, 2008, 08:57 PM
I feel sorry for you guys that have school, i don' work thought, but my cousin does, i have to wait around 12 to go.

I hope this cheers VIP people up, I found the floor plan for Roseland: (I e-mail the the Director of Roseland Ballroom, she says it a great view). :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/23865s.gif
That looks great and it will be less crowded hopefully knock on wood.

Gothic Empress
October 7th, 2008, 09:46 PM
I don't know how many VIP tickets were sold, but it wouldn't be as pushy as the mush pit. I'm kind of glad, it on the right side, Georg's side. :D I love Georg! :P

hypergal
October 8th, 2008, 05:05 PM
I currently despise my mother. She said we can't go because hotels are too much (we'd have to spend the night) and she has to save up for that car I want for my sweet sixteen. I don't care if it's a crappy car though! >.< Ughhhhhhh maybe I can still convince her. :/ doubt it though. Oh well, not like they're never coming back.

CaitlinCatastrophe
October 8th, 2008, 05:36 PM
The day before????? I am just wondering how early they will actually let us, its not like starland where theres nothing else going on, theres like businesses so i dunno, they might kick us out! til later but i am getting there around 7am! so its gonna be interesting! And june is that you?????

yes it is I...!... JUNE :p
who art thou?

and yes they don't mind like starland. i personally went to roseland and ask them.







i was with june when she went to roseland. we didn't ask. i'll be in nyc this sat. i'll try to ask then. heck, i'll just call!! lol!!!

I went with you guys too!

Oh and i went again today and asked about the camera thing and the guy there said not unless they have specificly said no cameras then yeah cameras are fine!

kasspouete
October 8th, 2008, 06:54 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/23865s.gif
IF I'M IN THE CORNER, I WOULB BE VERY NEAR! WELL, I KEEP MY VIP TICKET!

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 8th, 2008, 06:57 PM
^ i got vip, 2 and it seems good unless u get the back or the far end away from the stage :D

AndIBelieve
October 8th, 2008, 07:10 PM
I am so excited.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 8th, 2008, 07:11 PM
me 2!!! :D :mrgreen:

ilovetokiohotel1565
October 8th, 2008, 07:14 PM
me three. loll.
i cant wait to see you all there!!
my name is jessie, if you see me say hi!! loll :D
ill be in a th shirtt =]

exhilaration
October 8th, 2008, 09:23 PM
No cameras?
:\

&&I'm too much of a wuss to sneak one in. . .

ilovetokiohotel1565
October 8th, 2008, 09:35 PM
well they really didnt say no cameras. but if u lok up roseland ballroom on ticketmaster it will say no cameras, but i guess they didnt say it specificly.

Gothic Empress
October 8th, 2008, 09:56 PM
I'm nervous about this, am always very nervous, even though at Starland, there were about a block in head of me and my cousin to get in the venue, i hope this time, I'll have luck like i did on my brithday, (August 7, the best b-day ever! specifically after the horrid at my brithday get together on the 6th, i was crying become NONE of my friends were there, because many of them were on vacation!), i managed to get up close (without being a b*tch lol), and hopefully my pixs at this concert would be better!

Porsche12212
October 8th, 2008, 10:56 PM
I can't wait for the concert! I hope I'm not trambled :cry:

EureSchatzi18
October 9th, 2008, 11:34 AM
So the camera thing, i don't think that the live nation tix say ANYTHING about no cameras! So........ technically! They can't throw your camera out right!!!?!?!?! And June it's me Hannah, remember the car accident!!! GOD that dreaded day!

exhilaration
October 9th, 2008, 06:57 PM
Hahah. Guess I'll bring one, then.
&now that I think about it, I'm sure almost every person going will bring their cameras. If they've been fans for a long enough time to see that at every TH show there are a lot of cameras, at least.
And security couldn't take every everyone's camera, yo.
That'd be stoopid.
D;

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 9th, 2008, 06:59 PM
i didnt bring a camera 2 the starland concert....i wish i had

ilovetokiohotel1565
October 9th, 2008, 07:09 PM
is anyone gonna bring a bag?
cause i heard that it's better not to bring a bag but i might have to since i have to ccarry my camera.
is it better not to bring a bag?

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 9th, 2008, 07:13 PM
is anyone gonna bring a bag?
cause i heard that it's better not to bring a bag but i might have to since i have to ccarry my camera.
is it better not to bring a bag?
id say that u shouldnt bring 1 unless its like absolutley nessacery cuz itll annoy u and the ppl around u

xdeadbydawn
October 9th, 2008, 10:08 PM
is anyone gonna bring a bag?
cause i heard that it's better not to bring a bag but i might have to since i have to ccarry my camera.
is it better not to bring a bag?

bag = main annoyance.

Gothic Empress
October 9th, 2008, 10:16 PM
I bring a Sling bag to Starland (i bring a book with me for people to sign to give to the boys, long story!), it was indeed annoying, this time am bring just my purse (it would be annoying but smaller), plus i have to bring my purse for medical reasons, sorry people.

ilovetokiohotel1565
October 9th, 2008, 10:22 PM
ooo ok so no bag?

but for you guys that already have gone to a th concert, if u brought a camera, where did u keep it?

JumbieLover
October 9th, 2008, 10:35 PM
ooo ok so no bag?

but for you guys that already have gone to a th concert, if u brought a camera, where did u keep it?
You just hold a camera in your hand if you want to bring it. But in my opinion, you enjoy the concert more when you aren't taking pictures.

CrazyKenya16
October 10th, 2008, 04:06 PM
-raises hand-

I will be attending




yeah!!!!!! :D how early are you getting there?


Hmmm Im not sure, maybe 5 something like that lmao

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 10th, 2008, 04:07 PM
im prbly not get thr til 12 :cry:

AndIBelieve
October 10th, 2008, 04:30 PM
im prbly not get thr til 12 :cry:
I thought we were going together.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 10th, 2008, 04:31 PM
im prbly not get thr til 12 :cry:
I thought we were going together.
u said u were getting thr @ like 6 and we were gonna meet thr and then ud join me in line? :?

AndIBelieve
October 10th, 2008, 04:34 PM
u said u were getting thr @ like 6 and we were gonna meet thr and then ud join me in line? :?
Oh my mom said we were driving together but that's good, too. I'm coming home tOmorrow!

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 10th, 2008, 04:34 PM
u said u were getting thr @ like 6 and we were gonna meet thr and then ud join me in line? :?
Oh my mom said we were driving together but that's good, too. I'm coming home tOmorrow!
yay :D wat time r we going?

AndIBelieve
October 10th, 2008, 04:37 PM
u said u were getting thr @ like 6 and we were gonna meet thr and then ud join me in line? :?
Oh my mom said we were driving together but that's good, too. I'm coming home tOmorrow!
yay :D wat time r we going?
We're going to the movies at 7ish.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 10th, 2008, 04:38 PM
noo. i meant the concert (nd i cant go 2 the movies, i already tld rylee :( )

AndIBelieve
October 10th, 2008, 04:40 PM
noo. i meant the concert (nd i cant go 2 the movies, i already tld rylee :( )
Oh, okay. Can you do anything this weekend?

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 10th, 2008, 04:41 PM
hmm...idk
http://st.blog.cz/p/paiginky.blog.cz/ob ... 672268.jpg (http://st.blog.cz/p/paiginky.blog.cz/obrazky/1672268.jpg)
:shock: his shirt! :shock: :shock: :shock:

AndIBelieve
October 10th, 2008, 05:07 PM
hmm...idk
http://st.blog.cz/p/paiginky.blog.cz/ob ... 672268.jpg (http://st.blog.cz/p/paiginky.blog.cz/obrazky/1672268.jpg)
:shock: his shirt! :shock: :shock: :shock:
That's from his Rette Mich days!

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 10th, 2008, 05:09 PM
:lol: and bill claims tom's the pervy 1 :roll:

xomicaelaa2792
October 10th, 2008, 05:11 PM
LMFAO.
nice shirt bill! ;)

AndIBelieve
October 10th, 2008, 05:13 PM
:lol: and bill claims tom's the pervy 1 :roll:
want to come to our old school on monday or tuesday with me?

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 10th, 2008, 05:14 PM
:lol: and bill claims tom's the pervy 1 :roll:
want to come to our old school on monday or tuesday with me?
why r u going thr?

AndIBelieve
October 10th, 2008, 05:30 PM
:lol: and bill claims tom's the pervy 1 :roll:
want to come to our old school on monday or tuesday with me?
why r u going thr?
I don't think I am but if I do to see people.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 10th, 2008, 05:31 PM
but we dont kno ne 8th graders...lol or do u mean 2 c teachers nd stuff? nd if i did go, i couldnt go tues. i have skool

whatsername465
October 10th, 2008, 11:13 PM
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
i cant go
because its a "school night"
:cry: :cry: :cry:

muzicg90
October 10th, 2008, 11:24 PM
**** that sucks. :(

Porsche12212
October 10th, 2008, 11:58 PM
:cry: :cry: :cry:
i cant go
because its a "school night"
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Aww, I'm sorry you can't go!! My mom tried to use that excuse with me, but I was like "OH **** NO, I'M GOING" lol Because I literally live 5 minutes away from the train station and can leave right after school directly to Penn Station. So there was no way to refuse cuz my plan was so good! haha I always get my way! :D

AndIBelieve
October 11th, 2008, 08:50 AM
but we dont kno ne 8th graders...lol or do u mean 2 c teachers nd stuff? nd if i did go, i couldnt go tues. i have skool
I mean teachers obviously and after school obviously so we wouldn't see eighth graders. JK lol yayneisms and I heard about your comeback very nice lol

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 11th, 2008, 10:52 AM
^ wat comeback? :?

AndIBelieve
October 11th, 2008, 06:56 PM
^ wat comeback? :?
You said, "Fricking tranny."

exhilaration
October 12th, 2008, 12:29 PM
My tickets haven't come in the mail yet. o______O
Did you guys get yours?

lif3sap4rty
October 12th, 2008, 03:30 PM
i'm going :] with my friend abby. i just hope we're not like, wayy near the back. ick.

Gothic Empress
October 12th, 2008, 04:32 PM
I just looked on Ticket master, all VIP tickets from there are sold out, I wonder anywhere else is selling VIP tickets, just wondering? this the concert sold out yet?

sdsnrr
October 12th, 2008, 07:53 PM
nope i went to ticket master in the mall in canada and they still have tickets for sale here!!!

CaitlinCatastrophe
October 12th, 2008, 08:19 PM
nope i went to ticket master in the mall in canada and they still have tickets for sale here!!!
wut about fastlane tickets?

kasspouete
October 12th, 2008, 08:40 PM
I just looked on Ticket master, all VIP tickets from there are sold out, I wonder anywhere else is selling VIP tickets, just wondering? this the concert sold out yet?
The vip ticket were sold out in the same day they were in sell

sdsnrr
October 12th, 2008, 09:41 PM
^ not in canada they were availible here for like 4 days the vip ones

ilovetokiohotel1565
October 13th, 2008, 11:59 AM
nope i went to ticket master in the mall in canada and they still have tickets for sale here!!!
wut about fastlane tickets?


you could only get fastlane tickets in the pre sale.
the presale was like sept 29 to oct 3..?

SpaceDementia
October 13th, 2008, 12:12 PM
^ Actually, Fast Lane is included in any tickets bought through LiveNation, even if they were bought after the pre-sale. But there is a list of venues on the LiveNation website that actually have a FastLane and Roseland wasn't one of them...
I called + emailed to ask about if there will be one or not and didn't get a straight answer :x

AndIBelieve
October 13th, 2008, 01:30 PM
^ Actually, Fast Lane is included in any tickets bought through LiveNation, even if they were bought after the pre-sale. But there is a list of venues on the LiveNation website that actually have a FastLane and Roseland wasn't one of them...
I called + emailed to ask about if there will be one or not and didn't get a straight answer :x
That's annoying.

jennifer2002
October 13th, 2008, 07:58 PM
To people who ordered their tix through Livenation.com:

Have you received yours in the mail yet? I ordered on the day the tix went on sale. Just wondering! Thanks.

marimoos
October 14th, 2008, 10:55 AM
To people who ordered their tix through Livenation.com:

Have you received yours in the mail yet? I ordered on the day the tix went on sale. Just wondering! Thanks.

i haven't gotten mine yet :(



oh and i hear some people might be dressing up in halloween costumes..i might wear a hot dog suit (i'll be in the balcony)

is anyone else wearing something??

Ladyxbk
October 14th, 2008, 11:54 AM
I got my tickets in the mail!!! See you all there!! I got the VIP floor. I'm scared to be all squished and stuff. I was on the verge of passing out when I was in front row at a DMX concert years ago. One of the security guards saw how much pain I was in and he asked if I was alright and if I wanted some water. That was so kind of him =] I hope the security guards at Roseland are just as kind!

xomicaelaa2792
October 14th, 2008, 03:23 PM
i still didnt
get my tickets in the mail!
grrr. lol

Gothic Empress
October 14th, 2008, 05:54 PM
I hope you all get your tickets soon...I got mine in my wallet safe and ready for the day of the 30th!.
Just not my cloths yet. lol

ray_ray2384
October 14th, 2008, 06:08 PM
To people who ordered their tix through Livenation.com:

Have you received yours in the mail yet? I ordered on the day the tix went on sale. Just wondering! Thanks.



i got my tix really fast! i would say four days after i ordered them online. i did it through ticket rush or something. it was during the presale that i purchased my tickets.

ray_ray2384
October 14th, 2008, 06:11 PM
^ Actually, Fast Lane is included in any tickets bought through LiveNation, even if they were bought after the pre-sale. But there is a list of venues on the LiveNation website that actually have a FastLane and Roseland wasn't one of them...
I called + emailed to ask about if there will be one or not and didn't get a straight answer :x




i think you might be wrong. check this link: http://www.livenation.com/venue/roseland-ballroom-tickets it states Roseland Ballroom as a livenation venue. and to the furthest right, it says that if you purchase your tickets through livenation then it is fastlane. just a thought!

Gothic Empress
October 14th, 2008, 06:16 PM
How many fastline tickets are there?

ilovetokiohotel1565
October 14th, 2008, 07:40 PM
tickets came today!!!
cant waitt :D

my_heart_iz_a_whore
October 14th, 2008, 08:25 PM
I am VERY confused on fastlane because one site says roseland does not do fastlane and another site says it does. I will be very ****** if theres no fastlane cuz my ticket from livenation came in the mail today, and if i wasted 47.25 dollars for nothing, i will do some severe crying lol. :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :(

xdeadbydawn
October 14th, 2008, 08:39 PM
1) IF YOU BUY THE PRE-SALES THROUGH LIVENATION... and it verify that it is a fastlane... there's it's a FAST LANE. Roseland DOES have a fast lane. How do I know? Because I went to the venue and ask them.

2) Tickets were sent out already for people who ordered theirs on the day of the pre-sales, so if you order a little later, yours might come a bit late.

bertrann92
October 14th, 2008, 08:40 PM
i got my tixs today

my_heart_iz_a_whore
October 14th, 2008, 08:44 PM
1) IF YOU BUY THE PRE-SALES THROUGH LIVENATION... and it verify that it is a fastlane... there's it's a FAST LANE. Roseland DOES have a fast lane. How do I know? Because I went to the venue and ask them.

2) Tickets were sent out already for people who ordered theirs on the day of the pre-sales, so if you order a little later, yours might come a bit late.

Good but if you u didnt do pre-sale, and ordered it like the day after presale do u still get fastlane cuz its livenation ticket?

exhilaration
October 14th, 2008, 08:55 PM
Tickets came todayy, yaaay!

xdeadbydawn
October 14th, 2008, 09:03 PM
Good but if you u didnt do pre-sale, and ordered it like the day after presale do u still get fastlane cuz its livenation ticket?

nope.
pre-sales ONLY.

otherwise it wouldn't be a fastlane say if EVERYONE get it after the pre-sales, right? that's general admission then.

SpaceDementia
October 14th, 2008, 09:06 PM
I emailed Live Nation to ask if non-pre sale tickets had Fast Lane and I was told they do, so long as they were bought through the Live Nation website...

Ugggh, the confusion! :?

my_heart_iz_a_whore
October 14th, 2008, 09:50 PM
I emailed Live Nation to ask if non-pre sale tickets had Fast Lane and I was told they do, so long as they were bought through the Live Nation website...

Ugggh, the confusion! :?


lol, this is very confusing! i wish i could take the president of LIVE NATION and ask them myself, because like you, i thought that as long as you brought from live nation, you get fastlane.

ray_ray2384
October 14th, 2008, 10:03 PM
ok, here's a question. for those who have already received their tickets. what color are they? mine are red and white. i know it might seem like a dumb question. but, maybe tix that were purchased presale are different in color than the ones purchased after the presale?

SpaceDementia
October 14th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Hmmm, good thinking!
My ticket is also red + white (I like the color scheme by the way ;) ) and I did NOT buy my tickets presale...

Also, it doesn't say anything about Fast Lane on the ticket itself or anything but I know that when I did the Live Nation checkout, it said it included Fast Lane AND the email from the Live Nation person confirmed that :?

And I heard that at other concerts with Fast Lanes during the summer tour, you had to show your Live Nation ticket to get in through Fast Lane since they are different from tickets bought through Ticketmaster

EureSchatzi18
October 14th, 2008, 10:15 PM
1) IF YOU BUY THE PRE-SALES THROUGH LIVENATION... and it verify that it is a fastlane... there's it's a FAST LANE. Roseland DOES have a fast lane. How do I know? Because I went to the venue and ask them.

2) Tickets were sent out already for people who ordered theirs on the day of the pre-sales, so if you order a little later, yours might come a bit late.
ya, but does anyones livenation tix specify anything about fastlane? cuz mine def dont and i bought mine the first day of presale!

my_heart_iz_a_whore
October 14th, 2008, 10:20 PM
my live nation ticket is also red and white, and also says nothing about fastlane ON the ticket. And i ordered my ticket the day after presale ended.

SpaceDementia
October 14th, 2008, 10:22 PM
So it seems that all the Live Nation tickets are the same, whether or not they were bought during the presale...so I think that should mean we all can do Fast Lane :roll:

ray_ray2384
October 14th, 2008, 10:34 PM
Hmmm, good thinking!
My ticket is also red + white (I like the color scheme by the way ;) ) and I did NOT buy my tickets presale...

Also, it doesn't say anything about Fast Lane on the ticket itself or anything but I know that when I did the Live Nation checkout, it said it included Fast Lane AND the email from the Live Nation person confirmed that :?

And I heard that at other concerts with Fast Lanes during the summer tour, you had to show your Live Nation ticket to get in through Fast Lane since they are different from tickets bought through Ticketmaster




yeah, my tickets are red and white and it does not say that it is a fastlane ticket. but, i did purchase it during the presale through livenation. so, i know it is fastlane. so, i guess you can either have a red and white ticket or a regular ticketmaster ticket.

xdeadbydawn
October 14th, 2008, 10:44 PM
generally, ticketmaster tickets are white with green, blue, black prints.

augh. i guess A LOT of people have fast lane. i did not buy my ticket, my friend did through fast lane. i only bought my tix for the philly show through ticketmaster.

xomicaelaa2792
October 15th, 2008, 12:20 AM
Ugh! For some reason they thought they got my address wrong so live nation personally called me today to tell me that they were sent back! I was so ******. So I gave them my grandmas address & theyre gonna try and send it there! I'm scared I won't get them in time tho! :|
&& I got my tickets the first day they went on presale.

ray_ray2384
October 15th, 2008, 01:17 AM
Ugh! For some reason they thought they got my address wrong so live nation personally called me today to tell me that they were sent back! I was so ******. So I gave them my grandmas address & theyre gonna try and send it there! I'm scared I won't get them in time tho! :|
&& I got my tickets the first day they went on presale.



don't worry, i'm sure you will get you tix in time! concert is in two weeks!!! if not, harrass them every day and tell them they better send your tickets for the 30th! :)

xomicaelaa2792
October 15th, 2008, 07:11 AM
Ugh! For some reason they thought they got my address wrong so live nation personally called me today to tell me that they were sent back! I was so ******. So I gave them my grandmas address & theyre gonna try and send it there! I'm scared I won't get them in time tho! :|
&& I got my tickets the first day they went on presale.



don't worry, i'm sure you will get you tix in time! concert is in two weeks!!! if not, harrass them every day and tell them they better send your tickets for the 30th! :)

LOL! :lol:

my_heart_iz_a_whore
October 15th, 2008, 11:38 AM
I wonder what time security people would put up a gate or something for the fastlane people to seperate them from the general admission line? Like will some place have a sticker or something that says "Fastlane people only" and "Gerneral Admissions only"?

CaitlinCatastrophe
October 15th, 2008, 02:06 PM
I wonder if we'll get a signing.
I mean it would make sense.

CaitlinCatastrophe
October 15th, 2008, 02:11 PM
I wonder what time security people would put up a gate or something for the fastlane people to seperate them from the general admission line? Like will some place have a sticker or something that says "Fastlane people only" and "Gerneral Admissions only"?

Probably once there are like 10 people outside they&#39;ll get the gates up and they&#39;ll put people out there constantly checking people&#39;s tickets when they get on line. I went to the venue and asked then about the fastlane and general admission and they said that the line for fastlane would be directly in front of the door and the other line wouldn&#39;t.

lovelymaiden2b
October 15th, 2008, 03:23 PM
Hey, everyone! :P This is my very first post and I've been diligently reading this thread because the Roseland performance is going to be my very FIRST Tokio Hotel concert!!!! :D SO EXCITED! I've only been to one other "concert" and that was the Van Warped Tour, soo huge and definitely threw me into the madness of concerts.

I wanted to ask for those who have been to past TH concerts, if Tokio Hotel is going to sing all in English or are they going to treat us to any German? I want them to sing at least ONE, no- two!, songs in German!! My faves would have to be Schrei (of course), Totgeliebt, Ich Breus Aus, and Rette Mich (the song that made my heart wrench and tears to run). Man, I wouldn't even mind if they did the whole concert in German and sang all in German! :mrgreen: That would be so hawt. So how would we go about finding out if they're going to sing any songs in German?? And what songs would you like to hear?

Gothic Empress
October 15th, 2008, 04:47 PM
I wonder how how many people can be in VIP section? just curious.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 15th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Hey, everyone! :P This is my very first post and I've been diligently reading this thread because the Roseland performance is going to be my very FIRST Tokio Hotel concert!!!! :D SO EXCITED! I've only been to one other "concert" and that was the Van Warped Tour, soo huge and definitely threw me into the madness of concerts.

I wanted to ask for those who have been to past TH concerts, if Tokio Hotel is going to sing all in English or are they going to treat us to any German? I want them to sing at least ONE, no- two!, songs in German!! My faves would have to be Schrei (of course), Totgeliebt, Ich Breus Aus, and Rette Mich (the song that made my heart wrench and tears to run). Man, I wouldn't even mind if they did the whole concert in German and sang all in German! :mrgreen: That would be so hawt. So how would we go about finding out if they're going to sing any songs in German?? And what songs would you like to hear?
welcome to the forum!! :-) and the only german song i know they do is durch den monsun and i want them 2 do reden

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 15th, 2008, 04:50 PM
I wonder how how many people can be in VIP section? just curious.
my friend went there for a panic! at the disco concert and said there was lke 40 chairs there

Gothic Empress
October 15th, 2008, 04:50 PM
Hey, everyone! :P This is my very first post and I've been diligently reading this thread because the Roseland performance is going to be my very FIRST Tokio Hotel concert!!!! :D SO EXCITED! I've only been to one other "concert" and that was the Van Warped Tour, soo huge and definitely threw me into the madness of concerts.

I wanted to ask for those who have been to past TH concerts, if Tokio Hotel is going to sing all in English or are they going to treat us to any German? I want them to sing at least ONE, no- two!, songs in German!! My faves would have to be Schrei (of course), Totgeliebt, Ich Breus Aus, and Rette Mich (the song that made my heart wrench and tears to run). Man, I wouldn't even mind if they did the whole concert in German and sang all in German! :mrgreen: That would be so hawt. So how would we go about finding out if they're going to sing any songs in German?? And what songs would you like to hear?

Hey, that awesome! my first TH concert was August 7 (my brithday) and that was amazing! this one will be my second.

they sing in English, I do too, like Schrei in German, then English.

Gothic Empress
October 15th, 2008, 04:52 PM
I wonder how how many people can be in VIP section? just curious.
my friend went there for a panic! at the disco concert and said there was lke 40 chairs there


inserting, I thought they'll be more, it for all VIP right, not just forty i hope. thanks for the info.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 15th, 2008, 04:55 PM
I wonder how how many people can be in VIP section? just curious.
my friend went there for a panic! at the disco concert and said there was lke 40 chairs there


inserting, I thought they'll be more, it for all VIP right, not just forty i hope. thanks for the info.
i thought there would be more, 2. also, my cousin said its a nice little venue, but on here ppl r saying its big....

ilovetokiohotel1565
October 15th, 2008, 05:27 PM
im getting there prettyy early,
if a lot of people are gonna be on fastlane, i better hurry.
wat time r u guys getting there?

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 15th, 2008, 05:30 PM
im not getting there until after 3 or 4,but im in the vip section

Gothic Empress
October 15th, 2008, 05:31 PM
I'm in the VIP section too, I'll possibly not be there until 1ish.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 15th, 2008, 05:33 PM
I'm in the VIP section too, I'll possibly not be there until 1ish.
wat r u wearing 2 the concert? im prbly decorating a tank top to say something th-related and wearing my th-shorts i wore 2 all the th stuff in august that i went 2

EureSchatzi18
October 15th, 2008, 05:59 PM
J/W has anyone asked or found out how early they are actually gonna let us line up???? I mean its not like we are in the middle of nowhere like that **** starland ballroom where we played limbo with a pool noodle! Ya that was me! haha i didn't kow if we were all gonna get there early and get kicked out!? If not that would be a good question to ask!

Gothic Empress
October 15th, 2008, 05:59 PM
I'm in the VIP section too, I'll possibly not be there until 1ish.
wat r u wearing 2 the concert? im prbly decorating a tank top to say something th-related and wearing my th-shorts i wore 2 all the th stuff in august that i went 2

cool,

I'm wearing mostly all black,
A jacket termed with black Victorian lace (on the sleeves), black pants ( lace-up detailing on the sides, removable straps with frilled accents, D-rings, zippers, chains and crosses), a bowler hat with TH buttons on them, black and white strip Converse shoes, a choker, crosses and few beaned necklaces, earrings, bracelets and glow in the dark ones too!, fingerless black gloves and a large black ring.

I haven't decided on a tee shirt yet, lol. maybe my new Bill tee, but i want to wear a sluttier shirt! lol

CaitlinCatastrophe
October 15th, 2008, 06:07 PM
J/W has anyone asked or found out how early they are actually gonna let us line up???? I mean its not like we are in the middle of nowhere like that **** starland ballroom where we played limbo with a pool noodle! Ya that was me! haha i didn't kow if we were all gonna get there early and get kicked out!? If not that would be a good question to ask!
Hello!
I went to the venue twice asking them a bazillion question including how early we can line up.

He said whenever.
Then I was like dude I mean people could line up a day or two in advance.
then he said yes thats fine.
Then I was like AWESOME!

Gothic Empress
October 15th, 2008, 08:48 PM
I can see in the morning to start lining up, but a day or two before is just ridiculous! :shock: :|

ray_ray2384
October 15th, 2008, 09:49 PM
I can see in the morning to start lining up, but a day or two before is just ridiculous! :shock: :|



i agree!!!

EureSchatzi18
October 16th, 2008, 11:19 AM
J/W has anyone asked or found out how early they are actually gonna let us line up???? I mean its not like we are in the middle of nowhere like that **** starland ballroom where we played limbo with a pool noodle! Ya that was me! haha i didn't kow if we were all gonna get there early and get kicked out!? If not that would be a good question to ask!
Hello!
I went to the venue twice asking them a bazillion question including how early we can line up.

He said whenever.
Then I was like dude I mean people could line up a day or two in advance.
then he said yes thats fine.
Then I was like AWESOME!
NO thats not cool lil sis cuz my flight doesn't get in until 7! NOOOOOOOOOO! I need to be in the somewhat front!

xdeadbydawn
October 16th, 2008, 11:37 AM
J/W has anyone asked or found out how early they are actually gonna let us line up???? I mean its not like we are in the middle of nowhere like that **** starland ballroom where we played limbo with a pool noodle! Ya that was me! haha i didn't kow if we were all gonna get there early and get kicked out!? If not that would be a good question to ask!
Hello!
I went to the venue twice asking them a bazillion question including how early we can line up.

He said whenever.
Then I was like dude I mean people could line up a day or two in advance.
then he said yes thats fine.
Then I was like AWESOME!
NO thats not cool lil sis cuz my flight doesn't get in until 7! NOOOOOOOOOO! I need to be in the somewhat front!

not to like... shoot you down or anything but "front" is some-what possible if you get there before noon. i hpoe you do though if you want the front!

my original plan was to get there the day before but since im seeing them at philly the night before, we're driving back to ny that very night to get in line for the ny show. i've been waiting 30+ hours for them before and still i'm not the first in line but my spot were pretty **** awesome.

lovelymaiden2b
October 16th, 2008, 01:15 PM
Thanks tomkaulitzlvr1210 and Gothic Empress for the warm elcomes! :) As for what I'm wearing, I'm not sure but I definitely want to dress up in semi-Halloween attire. Maybe princess-style. Anyone going to wear a Halloween costume?

Lining up a day or two before IS crazy!!! Do people like that just camp out on the street like a bum? The police leave them alone? I'd be worried for those fans' safety... Speaking of fans, what does CFF stand for? I'm going to guess Crazy Female Fan? :?

lovelymaiden2b
October 16th, 2008, 01:21 PM
And to those who say they're going to line up early, are you guys going to be in the regular lane or FastLane? Can Live Nation FastLane ticket holders line up early or would that be pointless because they get in first? :?

xdeadbydawn
October 16th, 2008, 02:30 PM
And to those who say they're going to line up early, are you guys going to be in the regular lane or FastLane? Can Live Nation FastLane ticket holders line up early or would that be pointless because they get in first? :?

fastlane for me... and it wouldnt be pointless if we go early because we go in FIRST... opposed to ticketmaster holders. it wouldn't matter how early they came cause livenation ticket holders will still go in first.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 16th, 2008, 02:49 PM
^ i had starparking @ the NJ concert and i got 3rd row

my_heart_iz_a_whore
October 16th, 2008, 03:20 PM
I have a fastlane ticket but im still coming early, I dont know how early though. All I know is that that thursday i have class so i will have to leave my spot for school and come back. When i come back, if someone was to say i wasnt there, i would get really upset. (This is no threat lol, im just saying a sernaio that can happen, im actually a nice girl :) )

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 16th, 2008, 03:22 PM
I have a fastlane ticket but im still coming early, I dont know how early though. All I know is that that thursday i have class so i will have to leave my spot for school and come back. When i come back, if someone was to say i wasnt there, i would get really upset. (This is no threat lol, im just saying a sernaio that can happen, im actually a nice girl :) )
if ur in front or bakc of me, ill let u come back :-)

my_heart_iz_a_whore
October 16th, 2008, 03:32 PM
I have a fastlane ticket but im still coming early, I dont know how early though. All I know is that that thursday i have class so i will have to leave my spot for school and come back. When i come back, if someone was to say i wasnt there, i would get really upset. (This is no threat lol, im just saying a sernaio that can happen, im actually a nice girl :) )
if ur in front or bakc of me, ill let u come back :-)

thanx cuz ive heard about people who will just make a person seem like a liar, like they wasnt there that morning or something.

tomkaulitzlvr1210
October 16th, 2008, 03:46 PM
^ that would be terrible! @ the signing in NJ i went 2 i had 2 leave 2 go 2 the bathroom a few times and ppl held my spot

Gothic Empress
October 16th, 2008, 04:27 PM
It a pity, that that no signing for NYC, this time. :( I couldn't go to the NJ one, I was sick.

When I when to Starland, i got there around five, my cousin and I were in the middle of the line up, and I managed to get up close, Hope I'll have luck this time too. I have VIP, but still, I wanna be close! lol :D

Daria K.
October 16th, 2008, 05:22 PM
hey everyone
well im proly gonna get my tix today
on livenation
those of u who bought the tix there
how long did it take for them to come in the mail?
and does anyone kno if the fastlane thing really works?

Gothic Empress
October 16th, 2008, 08:07 PM
Fastline works, you go ahead with a lot of other people..

Ladyxbk
October 16th, 2008, 08:48 PM
man reading all these threads makes me want to go buy a fastlane ticket now! even though i already have the vip ticket. this will be my first tokio hotel concert ever AND i'm a mere 4' 11 1/2" tall! (yeah i know, i couldn't even make it to 5' tall :( ) *sigh* hopefully i'll be up really close. same here as well, if any of you are standing in front or behind me in line and have to go potty, get something to eat or whatever, i'd save your spot as well. :)

GossipGirl
October 16th, 2008, 08:50 PM
yeah the fast tickets really do help

at starland i got a fastline ticket and i got there like a half hour before the doors opended and i got second row.. they really do help

CaitlinCatastrophe
October 16th, 2008, 09:58 PM
J/W has anyone asked or found out how early they are actually gonna let us line up???? I mean its not like we are in the middle of nowhere like that **** starland ballroom where we played limbo with a pool noodle! Ya that was me! haha i didn't kow if we were all gonna get there early and get kicked out!? If not that would be a good question to ask!
Hello!
I went to the venue twice asking them a bazillion question including how early we can line up.

He said whenever.
Then I was like dude I mean people could line up a day or two in advance.
then he said yes thats fine.
Then I was like AWESOME!
NO thats not cool lil sis cuz my flight doesn't get in until 7! NOOOOOOOOOO! I need to be in the somewhat front!

Oh don't worry cuz i dont think anyone really will sleep over but its awesome cuz they aren't strict assholes like starland!
lol

CaitlinCatastrophe
October 16th, 2008, 10:00 PM
Thanks tomkaulitzlvr1210 and Gothic Empress for the warm elcomes! :) As for what I'm wearing, I'm not sure but I definitely want to dress up in semi-Halloween attire. Maybe princess-style. Anyone going to wear a Halloween costume?

Lining up a day or two before IS crazy!!! Do people like that just camp out on the street like a bum? The police leave them alone? I'd be worried for those fans' safety... Speaking of fans, what does CFF stand for? I'm going to guess Crazy Female Fan? :?
its crazy effing fangirl
but im dressing up somewhat princessy too!
I'm thinking tiara not sure wut else yet.
we can be twins! lol
im caitlin btw.
welcome

xdeadbydawn
October 16th, 2008, 10:42 PM
Oh don't worry cuz i dont think anyone really will sleep over but its awesome cuz they aren't strict assholes like starland!
lol

HEY IM SLEEPING OVER AT ROSELAND :x

CaitlinCatastrophe
October 16th, 2008, 10:54 PM
Oh don't worry cuz i dont think anyone really will sleep over but its awesome cuz they aren't strict assholes like starland!
lol

HEY IM SLEEPING OVER AT ROSELAND :x
yeah! cuz ur awesome like that!

ray_ray2384
October 16th, 2008, 11:17 PM
Oh don't worry cuz i dont think anyone really will sleep over but its awesome cuz they aren't strict assholes like starland!
lol

HEY IM SLEEPING OVER AT ROSELAND :x



are you going to the signing in philly?

ray_ray2384
October 16th, 2008, 11:19 PM
And to those who say they're going to line up early, are you guys going to be in the regular lane or FastLane? Can Live Nation FastLane ticket holders line up early or would that be pointless because they get in first? :?

fastlane for me... and it wouldnt be pointless if we go early because we go in FIRST... opposed to ticketmaster holders. it wouldn't matter how early they came cause livenation ticket holders will still go in first.



thank God! i'll be arriving really late, and i know i won't get a really good spot. but, i'm happy i will be in the line that goes before everyone else.

Ladyxbk
October 17th, 2008, 09:11 AM
man.... now i'm really thinkin about selling the 2 $75 vip tickets on ebay and buying live nation tickets instead!! cuz i think it would be annoying to hold on to the poster and t shirt through out the show.. with the crazy crowd, it might get ripped right??

AndIBelieve
October 17th, 2008, 09:21 AM
Oh don't worry cuz i dont think anyone really will sleep over but its awesome cuz they aren't strict assholes like starland!
lol

HEY IM SLEEPING OVER AT ROSELAND :x



are you going to the signing in philly?
What signing in Philly?

Daria K.
October 17th, 2008, 10:20 AM
Oh don't worry cuz i dont think anyone really will sleep over but its awesome cuz they aren't strict assholes like starland!
lol

HEY IM SLEEPING OVER AT ROSELAND :x

omg ur soo lucky
if ma dad would let me then would totally do that
but i have the fast lane tix so i guess i dont need to

xdeadbydawn
October 17th, 2008, 12:49 PM
Oh don't worry cuz i dont think anyone really will sleep over but its awesome cuz they aren't strict assholes like starland!
lol

HEY IM SLEEPING OVER AT ROSELAND :x



are you going to the signing in philly?

noo it's in the middle of nowhere so im not going.
and it's not in philly... aka philadelphia. it's in wilkes-barre. 2 hours away from philly.

ray_ray2384
October 17th, 2008, 01:18 PM
Oh don't worry cuz i dont think anyone really will sleep over but its awesome cuz they aren't strict assholes like starland!
lol

HEY IM SLEEPING OVER AT ROSELAND :x



are you going to the signing in philly?[/quote]

noo it's in the middle of nowhere so im not going.
and it's not in philly... aka philadelphia. it's in wilkes-barre. 2 hours away from philly.[/quote]



****!!! why oh why did they choose that spot? srsly, doesn't make any sense. i mean it's school time now, not a lot of fans will have the means nor the time to travel so far just for an autograph. i really don't understand this.

exhilaration
October 17th, 2008, 04:17 PM
man.... now i'm really thinkin about selling the 2 $75 vip tickets on ebay and buying live nation tickets instead!! cuz i think it would be annoying to hold on to the poster and t shirt through out the show.. with the crazy crowd, it might get ripped right??

But with the vip tickets, I thought you got a special place to sit? Or. . . be? Idk if there's seats. . .
So you won't be in the crowd.
o__________O


I dunno, I could be wrong.

Gothic Empress
October 17th, 2008, 07:18 PM
Are you sure about the 52 one, seating?

Ladyxbk
October 17th, 2008, 07:19 PM
man.... now i'm really thinkin about selling the 2 $75 vip tickets on ebay and buying live nation tickets instead!! cuz i think it would be annoying to hold on to the poster and t shirt through out the show.. with the crazy crowd, it might get ripped right??

But with the vip tickets, I thought you got a special place to sit? Or. . . be? Idk if there's seats. . .
So you won't be in the crowd.
o__________O


I dunno, I could be wrong.


the $75 vip ones are general admission floor and the $52 vip ones get to sit on the side stage. yeah you would think the more expensive one would come with seats right?

AndIBelieve
October 17th, 2008, 07:47 PM
The VIP Stage Side is 52 and you get seats but you don't have to sit in them. It can hold about 40 people I think according to my friend who went there and she didn't sit there. It is raised up and she thinks you get a good view from there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg4nBGf9HnE

ray_ray2384
October 17th, 2008, 08:16 PM
The VIP Stage Side is 52 and you get seats but you don't have to sit in them. It can hold about 40 people I think according to my friend who went there and she didn't sit there. It is raised up and she thinks you get a good view from there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg4nBGf9HnE




yeah, that view does look very good.

Daria K.
October 17th, 2008, 09:03 PM
The VIP Stage Side is 52 and you get seats but you don't have to sit in them. It can hold about 40 people I think according to my friend who went there and she didn't sit there. It is raised up and she thinks you get a good view from there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg4nBGf9HnE




yeah, that view does look very good.

but its still kinda far away from the stage

ray_ray2384
October 17th, 2008, 09:08 PM
The VIP Stage Side is 52 and you get seats but you don't have to sit in them. It can hold about 40 people I think according to my friend who went there and she didn't sit there. It is raised up and she thinks you get a good view from there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg4nBGf9HnE




yeah, that view does look very good.

but its still kinda far away from the stage




yeah, but, i'll be arriving late for the concert. i'm sure i'll be wayyyyyyyyyyy in the back.

Gothic Empress
October 17th, 2008, 09:48 PM
The VIP Stage Side is 52 and you get seats but you don't have to sit in them. It can hold about 40 people I think according to my friend who went there and she didn't sit there. It is raised up and she thinks you get a good view from there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg4nBGf9HnE

It looks close enough, even closer if you like seat in the first few rows.

my_heart_iz_a_whore
October 18th, 2008, 12:37 AM
I know im like totally changing the subject for a sec now but i was wondering, i have a fastlane ticket but ive also been planning sleeping over or just coming early. I just dont wanna risk anything by coming later. what do u guys thinks about that?

ray_ray2384
October 18th, 2008, 01:27 AM
I know im like totally changing the subject for a sec now but i was wondering, i have a fastlane ticket but ive also been planning sleeping over or just coming early. I just dont wanna risk anything by coming later. what do u guys thinks about that?



i'd say line up early if you can. a lot of ppl are planning on being there as early as they can. even those with fastlane tickets.

Daria K.
October 19th, 2008, 12:51 PM
One question to those who got their tickets at livenation!!!
r any of you getting ur tix at the will call??
if yes please message me

Casey21
October 19th, 2008, 02:27 PM
for those who already have fastlane tickets, i really dont think you need to get there as early as you think

fastlane pretty much ensures youll get a decent spot

CaitlinCatastrophe
October 19th, 2008, 02:36 PM
for those who already have fastlane tickets, i really dont think you need to get there as early as you think

fastlane pretty much ensures youll get a decent spot
if u wanna take that chance.......