Bill Wants A Birthday Coffee Party!

[mollie]

Bill: "Adult is relative" - Welt Online

In a new interview with Welt Online, the twins seem very deep in thought as they talked about turning 20, their family and friends, dealing with the media, trying to live a bit more regular lives, among other things. If there’s an interview you’re going to read, this should be the one. It really shows the extent of Bill & Tom’s intelligence.

"Bill Kaulitz never leaves the house before he is ready,” says the woman from the record company. Appointment times are therefore calculated, so that his mask is always in place. And when the petite young man stands before you, you get a slight idea of how much time his appearance takes. Among the perfectly set, dyed black hair, dreadlocks peek out, the eyelids to graced with a composition of black and white, matching the painted nails. The hands in leather gloves have difficulty separating the mass of chains that are attached to his black shirt. His twin Tom is sitting next to him on a couch in a hotel room with pink walls. He fancies himself as a street rocker with a leather jacket and braided hair. No less expensive, but not so conspicuous. Two ordinary guys framed in a pop-star reality.

Welt am Sonntag: Bill, Tom, you both have a birthday on the 1st of September, what do you want?
Bill Kaulitz: I wish to see my family and friends, and to drink coffee. I love coffee, I drink gallons of it. And I’d like a round of coffee with cream pies. And it would great if all were over 60. So we can have a really good gossip session.
Tom Kaulitz: With older people talking it results in conversations that are completely off the beaten track. They have very different thoughts. It would be good for both of us to each have a Sunday tea-party.

Do you have material desires?
Bill: No.

A new car perhaps?
Tom: I don’t think there are many people that would give me something that extravagant. But of course, I would be happy with a new car.

You are turning 20. Are you an adult?
Bill: I think I’ll never grow up. But growing up is also relative, I have already thought of 13 that I can do anything, and I felt old enough to go to clubs and drink alcohol. I always felt older than I am.

You have finished your secondary school certificate by distance learning and have been awarded for particularly good performance.
Bill: This is almost embarrassing, right?

A little bit.
Bill: Tom and I hated school. That was the worst time in our lives. I feel sorry for anyone that has to go to school.

What was so bad?
Tom: Most of the people were scandalized because of our appearance. Worst of all, I find that the personality of each individual is totally suppressed in the institution of schooling.
Bill: Tom and I were in two different classes for disciplinary reasons in the 7th grade. We were real problem children, and were almost expelled from school. But not because of drugs or fights. But because we used to discuss everything, which the teachers hated. And then you realize that learning to become a teacher is not selective enough. Many slip into study because they see no other way. But to be a teacher, you have to really want to learn and to have passion to teach.

They have so many of your fans that see you as a role model. Are there any values that you want to convey?
Tom: We are actually not role models.

But you are in a certain way. Are you aware?
Tom: No, not often. One must also be free to make your own decisions. We have limited time, anyway. In any case, I want to pay attention now so that I do not use swear words in interviews.

You have however committed, for example, to an anti-AIDS campaign.
Tom: Of course, sometimes we try to stand up for things we find important. But in the end: I don’t want to be a role model or idol. I hate the idea of it and I never will be a role-model.

Do you vote?
Tom: Um, yes. Let’s see.
Bill: At least the first time we did.

How high is the percentage of normalcy in your life?
Bill: One percent.

Is it the same as with international stars, that you cannot even go out shopping?
Tom: Yes, absolutely. When we started making music, we were at an age where our parents bought everything for us and now we are in an age where we need to do that ourselves, and we cannot.
Bill: It sounds kind of cool to have a personal assistant, who has to worry about things like that. But sometimes I would like to be able to choose my own yogurt.
Tom: [I]In the U.S., there are also supermarkets, which are open 24 hours a day. So you can also visit there a four in the morning, when nobody else is there. There we once walked into a toy department, and brought us everything. Guns with arrows and remote-controlled cars.
Bill: And then we had rocketed cars. Totally ridiculous.

And how do you buy your clothes?
Bill: This is usually done on the Internet or from the catalogue. So boring. But sometimes you have to jump over the shadow, say f*** it, stop standing out there, photographers and fans outside the door. Sometimes you have to go out just to live.

What’s on catering to your wish list?
Bill: Actually, there is a new one every year. And I must admit that it is pretty long. But we are so seldom at home, and so you try to make wherever you are beautiful. The most important thing to get right is coffee and blankets in the hotels. These rugs are the worst. Because it feels like being at camp. That is what is most important to me, a true ceiling and a real pillow.

Have you actually still quite normal friendships from the past?
Bill: Not really. In the Tokio Hotel time we haven’t added any new friends because you can’t really get to know them. Anyone who touches us, generally already has an opinion about us.

You use extra caution when it comes to people because you have often been deceived?
Tom: Yes, most of them with hidden agendas. We have had many experiences at the beginning of our career. At 15 we were at an after-show party, and have of course been photographed with alcohol. Back then it was like this: You drank a sip of alcohol, and then the magazine editors called the next day, wanting a scoop.

But you probably got coaching in how to deal with such situations.
Tom: No, we never have. And I do not need someone who tells me how I should respond to these questions.
Bill: You have to learn it yourself. By living and accepting that there are times when there are wrong things printed in the newspaper.

Do you have psychological support for such times?
Tom: The psychological care comes from our family and friends. I would imagine maybe getting professional help, but we have no time.
Bill: When people do that, I can understand it. The problem is, I believe that it doesn’t always help.
Tom: I also always think I’m smarter than the psychologist himself
Bill: Exactly. I would be like; All of what I’m telling you I’m telling you deliberately, because it’s my problem. And then the psychologist would say: Yes, you need time to think about it. And then I think to myself: Yeah great, I also knew before.

Thanx to THN and for translation thanks to th_cult on LiveJournal.

[latinaTHfanfurimmer]

Bahahahahaha.

I Found This Amusing.
:laugh:

I Would Pay To See Them Dance With Their 60+ Year Old Guests Like In That One Video Tom posted On His Blog.
:laugh:

[Babbity Rabbity]

i can see the teenies now trying to beg their grandparents to take them to the party :laugh:

or the CFFs disguising themselves as old people to get in lmfao

and yes, Bill does act like a big kid... one of the traits i adore about him :mrgreen:

[RoniDreadLover]

Atleast we don't have to worry about them getting all crazy drunk on their birthday. I mean seriously, who can get drunk with a bunch of 60 year olds watching you?....

[Babbity Rabbity]

Aww come on, 60 year olds know how to party ;]
you never know, one of those ladies might decide to spike the boys' coffee and have their way with them :laugh:

[x|BTGG|x]

Aww how cute is that. I bet it's COMPLETELY Bill's idea. Tom's idea for their 20th birthday would have to include playboy bunnies XD Nah, he says he's had enough adventures for now .. Wants to fall in love, but afraid it's impossible. Lol, my baby.
Isn't Billa just the sweetest thing alive .. 60+ for a 20yr old'd party. :)
<3

[wake.up.call.004]

He's right though. 60+ year olds have different things to say and talk about. They definitely won't care that he's "Bill Kaulitz," they'll just want to shove food down his throat 'cause he's too skinny. lol.

[TheCrazyStalkerChick]

He's right though. 60+ year olds have different things to say and talk about. They definitely won't care that he's "Bill Kaulitz," they'll just want to shove food down his throat 'cause he's too skinny. lol.

HAHAH. That would DEFINATELY happen if my grandma was there. :laugh:

[wake.up.call.004]

HAHAH. That would DEFINATELY happen if my grandma was there. :laugh:

I know. My Grandma saw him once and she started yelling at me because he was so skinny.
'Cause you know, I'm the one telling him not to eat. lmao.

[love, alex.]

Atleast we don't have to worry about them getting all crazy drunk on their birthday. I mean seriously, who can get drunk with a bunch of 60 year olds watching you?....

nahh my grandma is sixty three and she gets crazy drunk at parties lol.




omg I laughed SO HARD at that for some reason! :laugh: jeez I can imagine it now.

[FairyWings]

HAHA omg this is soo funny.. seems like they had a blast with Klaus & Ingrid, eh? ;)

and yeah elders have the BEST parties lmfao.. you should see some I've actually been to :laugh:

coffee and tarts? oh yeah this alcohol drinks that taste like coffee and tarts that taste like sour stuff and skittles.. yeah :laugh:

[love, alex.]

HAHA omg this is soo funny.. seems like they had a blast with Klaus & Ingrid, eh? ;)

and yeah elders have the BEST parties lmfao.. you should see some I've actually been to :laugh:

coffee and tarts? oh yeah this alcohol drinks that taste like coffee and tarts that taste like sour stuff and skittles.. yeah :laugh:

:laugh: and for their 21st birthday they're going to play bingo while sipping prune juice and stale cookies! :laugh:

[O3FC]

A party with old people, woo!
It does sound very funny, but I'm sure that everyone will have a blast.
I immediately thought of Ingrid and Klaus when I saw this. [[: They obviously had a great time with them.

[love, alex.]

A party with old people, woo!
It does sound very funny, but I'm sure that everyone will have a blast.
I immediately thought of Ingrid and Klaus when I saw this. [[: They obviously had a great time with them.

ooh Ingrid and Klaus could be there! those are my two favorite old people now :laugh:

[O3FC]

ooh Ingrid and Klaus could be there! those are my two favorite old people now :laugh:

Yeah they could! :cool:
They're really cool. C:
Can you imagine if the twins just had random invitations sent out to random old people, and their grandson/grandddaughter loved TH? They'd be all like, DDD:
:laugh:

[FairyWings]

Yeah they could! :cool:
They're really cool. C:
Can you imagine if the twins just had random invitations sent out to random old people, and their grandson/grandddaughter loved TH? They'd be all like, DDD:
:laugh:

Grandma take me pleeeeeaaaaassseeeee!! I'll chew your food for you for a month!!! :laugh:

haha omg that was messed up.. but yeah.. that'd be heck funny if they did that.. haha it's te cutest idea seriously. xD

[love, alex.]

I know alot old people who can still rock. xD
But Ingrid and Klaus are on my list for awesome elders.
How could they not be? :laugh:

haha oh I don't know many cool old people. all the old people here smell weird and play golf :laugh: not that cool.



Yeah they could! :cool:
They're really cool. C:
Can you imagine if the twins just had random invitations sent out to random old people, and their grandson/grandddaughter loved TH? They'd be all like, DDD:
:laugh:
omg if we see pictures of thier party and they're talking to Ingrid and Klaus I'll be like 'YESSS!"

and I'd be sad if I was old and got a random invitation to thier party and my grandchild loved them :sad1:

[TheCrazyStalkerChick]

I know. My Grandma saw him once and she started yelling at me because he was so skinny.
'Cause you know, I'm the one telling him not to eat. lmao.

xD. My grandma would like Bill I thinkkk. She'd think he was an adorable guy and by the end of it she'll be kissing his cheek when he leaves like she does will all her grandkids. But yeah the skinny thing? Bill would be 5 pounds heavier once he left. lol.

[love, alex.]

xD. My grandma would like Bill I thinkkk. She'd think he was an adorable guy and by the end of it she'll be kissing his cheek when he leaves like she does will all her grandkids. But yeah the skinny thing? Bill would be 5 pounds heavier once he left. lol.

most likely. every time I go see my grandparents they make me eat 5 tons of food because I'm too skinny :laugh:

[TheCrazyStalkerChick]

Yeah they could! :cool:
They're really cool. C:
Can you imagine if the twins just had random invitations sent out to random old people, and their grandson/grandddaughter loved TH? They'd be all like, DDD:
:laugh:

Omg if my grandma got invited... hmm.. she'd bring all the food! My grandma is so typically Filipino >.<

[jadoretokiohotelx]

Atleast we don't have to worry about them getting all crazy drunk on their birthday. I mean seriously, who can get drunk with a bunch of 60 year olds watching you?....

i have... hahaha... my grandma puts ALOT of alcohol in her cakes.... i got complete drunk.... on CAKE!!... hahaha....

[wake.up.call.004]

Point blank: Old people are amazing. xD

[FairyWings]

Here's the actual interview!

Welt.de: “Being an adult is relative”

Children, time flies by: The Teen Stars from Tokio Hotel are almost twenty. Bill and Tom Kaulitz talk of crashes, with 15, their luck, to go shopping theirselves, and why they prefer to talk to Grandma’s.

“Bill Kaulitz never leaves the house unvarnished,” says the woman from the record company. The time in the mask must therefore always be calculated at appointments. And when the petite young man stands in front of you, you get a slight idea of how much time he needs for his appearance.

Among the perfectly coiffed black and blond dreadlocks, a composition of a black and white line graces his eyelids, and his suitably painted nails. The hands in leather gloves have difficulty to arrange the mass of chains that are attached to his black shirt.

His twin Tom is sitting next to him, on a couch in a hotel room with pink painted walls. He fancies himself as a street rocker with a leather jacket and braided hair. Not less expensive, but not as striking. Two ordinary guys in pop-star attire.

WamS: Bill, Tom, both your birthdays are on September 1st, what do you desire?

Bill: I want to be together with my family, see my friends and drink coffee. I love coffee, I drink gallons of it. And I’d like a round of coffee with cream pies. And it would be great if everyone would be older than 60. Thus, a real coffee party.

Tom: Coversations with old people result in coversations that are completely off the beaten track. They have quite different thoughts. This would be great, every Sunday a coffee-party

WamS: Do you have any material desires?

Bill Kaulitz: I don’t.

WamS: A new car, maybe?

Tom Kaulitz: I think, that there’s no one who would give me something physical as a present. But sure, I would be happy about a new car.

WamS: You’re turning 20. Are you an adult?

Bill Kaulitz: I think I’ll never grow up. But growing up is relative. I already thought when I was 13 that I can do whatever I want. Go into Clubs and drink alcohol – I always felt older than I really am.

WamS: Via distance learning you finished secondary school and got awarded for a particularly good performance.

Bill: This is almost embarrassing, right?

WamS: A little bit.

Bill: Tom and I hated going to school. That was the worst time in our lives. I feel sorry for everyone who goes to school.

WamS: What was so bad about it?

Tom: Most of all we were scandalized because of our appearance in the school. But I think that the worst of all is, that the personality of each individual get’s totally suppressed in school.

Bill: Tom and I got transferred into two different classes for disciplinary reasons in 7th Grade. We were really rebellious children, and almost got expelled from school. But not because of drugs or fights. But because of discussions, which the teachers simply weren’t up to. And then you realize that pedagogy comes much too short in teacher education. A lot of people simply slip into the study because they see no other way. But if you want to be a teacher, you really have to want it and you have to have the passion for this job.

WamS: A lot of your fans take you as their role model. Are there any values that you want to convey?

Tom: We really don’t think of ourselves as role models.

WamS: But you exemplify it a little bit. Are you aware of this?

Tom: No, very often not. You have to free yourself of this. We have very limited free space anyway. I don’t want to suddenly pay attention to not use swear words in interviews.

WamS: But you, for example, supported an Anti-AIDS campaign.

Tom: Of course, sometimes we try to stand up for things which we think are important. But in the end: I hate this “Role-Model-Position” (Cmmt: Like, people always taking them as an example, pointing the fingers at them etc.). I don’t want to turn into something like this.

WamS: Will you vote?

Tom: Uhm, yes. Let’s see.

Bill: Then, in any case, the first time.

WamS: What’s the percentage of normalcy in your life?

Bill: 1%.

WamS: Is it the same as with the international stars, that you can’t even go shopping?

Tom: Yes, absolutely. When we started making music, we were at an age where our parents bought everything for us – now we’re at an age where we need to do this by ourselves but we can’t.

Bill: It sounds kind of cool to have a personal assistant, who get’s you everything you want. But I would also like to choose my yogurt by myself.

Tom: In the U.S., there are also supermarkets, which are open 24 hours a day. You can go down there at four in the night, when nobody else is there. We once walked into the toy department, and bought everything. Guns with arrows or remote-controlled cars.

Bill: And then we shot off the cars with the arrows. Totally ridiculous.

WamS: And how do you buy your clothes?

Bill: Usually trough the Internet or from catalogs. Totally Boring. But sometimes you have to jump over your own shadow. **** it, if photographers and fans are outside the door. Sometimes you have to go out, you need this little piece of normalcy to live.

WamS: What’s on your catering wish list?

Bill: Actually, every year there’s a new one. And I must admit that it’s pretty long. But we are at home so seldom, that we always try to make it as comfy as possible. The most important things are coffee and real blankets in the hotels. These wool-blankets are the worst. Because they make you feel like you’re at a camp. That is what is most important to me, a real blanket and pillow.

WamS: Do you still have normal friendships from the past?

Bill: Only (from the past). In the Tokio Hotel time we didn’t get to know any new friends because we can’t even really get to know each other. Everyone who meets us, already has an opinion about us.

WamS: Are you extra-cautious with getting in touch with new people because you have often been deceived?

Tom: Yes, most of the times from hidden-editors. We had had extreme experiences at the beginning of our career. At 15 we were at every after-show party and we have, of course, been drinking alcohol. Back then, it was like this: You drank a sip of alcohol, and then the next day the editors called the Youth Welfare Office who wanted to call off the project (Cmmt: With the Project they mean their career as Tokio Hotel) completely.

WamS: But you probably get coached in how to deal with such situations.

Tom: No, we never did. And I do not even want someone who tells me how I should respond to the questions.

Bill: You have to learn this by yourself, by bolting into such a situation and then living with the fact that sometimes also bad things are written about you in the newspapers.

WamS: Do you get psychological support for such cases?

Tom: Our family and friends are our psychological support. I could imagine getting professional help, but there’s the problem with the time again.

Bill: I can understand, when people do that. The problem is, I don’t believe in it.

Tom: I also always think I’m smarter than the psychologist himself.

Bill: Exactly. Everything I tell you, I tell you deliberately, because it’s my problem. And then the psychologist would say: Yes, you need to take some time to think about it. And then I think to myself: Great, I also knew this before.

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[FairyWings]

Imma start going to the supermarket at 4 am..maybe once I'll find the boys hanging out there :laugh:

[tokiohotelcrazy08]

IKR. jk I'm asleep around that time anyway. lol

[CocoRockStar]

Imma start going to the supermarket at 4 am..maybe once I'll find the boys hanging out there :laugh:


That would be so awesome! I'd go play with them on the toy aisle lol

And woohoo! Party with old people sounds fun!

[love, alex.]

WamS: Do you get psychological support for such cases?

Tom: Our family and friends are our psychological support. I could imagine getting professional help, but there’s the problem with the time again.

Bill: I can understand, when people do that. The problem is, I don’t believe in it.

Tom: I also always think I’m smarter than the psychologist himself.

Bill: Exactly. Everything I tell you, I tell you deliberately, because it’s my problem. And then the psychologist would say: Yes, you need to take some time to think about it. And then I think to myself: Great, I also knew this before.
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Source:http://www.tokiohotelrocks.com/

ew. I had to go to therapy for a while after my parents divorce because a lot of things were happening around then too and I couldn't handle it...
I hated it :laugh: the therapist was all "are you ANGRY at your parents?"
like no **** man :laugh:

[FairyWings]

That would be so awesome! I'd go play with them on the toy aisle lol

And woohoo! Party with old people sounds fun!

lmao

can you imagine going to the supermarket at 3 am or something in your PJ's looking like **** and meetin the boys there!!! omg that's be embarrassing! :laugh:

that's totally happened to me.. except not with famous people :laugh:

[summer love]

IKR. jk I'm asleep around that time anyway. lol
haha not me... I usually go to walgreens around that time (well not @ 4 but like 1 or 2 am) :laugh:

We don't have wally world's that open 24 hrs around here. :(

[FairyWings]

ew. I had to go to therapy for a while after my parents divorce because a lot of things were happening around then too and I couldn't handle it...
I hated it :laugh: the therapist was all "are you ANGRY at your parents?"
like no **** man :laugh:

ugh i know i hate therapists..

my family and I went to one for a year and usually after every session we got back home and had like a big *** fight! :laugh:

[love, alex.]

lmao

can you imagine going to the supermarket at 3 am or something in your PJ's looking like **** and meetin the boys there!!! omg that's be embarrassing! :laugh:

that's totally happened to me.. except not with famous people :laugh:

omg once I went to the gas station at like 6 AM because we were driving somewhere and I looked like **** and this really hot guy was at the cash register LMFAO I was so embarassed :laugh:

[Snowie]

ew. I had to go to therapy for a while after my parents divorce because a lot of things were happening around then too and I couldn't handle it...
I hated it :laugh: the therapist was all "are you ANGRY at your parents?"
like no **** man :laugh: I had to go to therapy when my mom passed and the lady was like "are you mad at your dad for leaving" I'm like "is it any of your ****ing business how i feel" i didn't want to talk about it

[love, alex.]

ugh i know i hate therapists..

my family and I went to one for a year and usually after every session we got back home and had like a big *** fight! :laugh:

lmao I always came back in the *****IEST mood ever! I'd like stomp in and start yelling at my mom :laugh: "what the **** mom? God I don't want to go to a stupid therapist, it isn't helping! I don't wanna freaking talk about it and he's MAKING me!"
and he was all buff too so I was so scared he was gonna slap me if I didn't talk :laugh:
my sisters didn't have to go though. lucky *****es haha.

[CocoRockStar]

lmao

can you imagine going to the supermarket at 3 am or something in your PJ's looking like **** and meetin the boys there!!! omg that's be embarrassing! :laugh:

that's totally happened to me.. except not with famous people :laugh:



Lol who knows, they might look like **** too! Bill would probably be in sweats with no make up, praying you didn't recognize him haha, but it would be fun, like a pajama party!

[love, alex.]

I had to go to therapy when my mom passed and the lady was like "are you mad at your dad for leaving" I'm like "is it any of your ****ing business how i feel"

omg I KNOW! and then the stupid douche was all "How do you feeeeeeeel about your friend?" because he kicked the bucket and I was all "I don't wanna talk about it." because I'd cry if I did but he was all "Now, if you don't talk about it, it'll stay bottled up inside of you." and like that's where I want it to be!

[FairyWings]

omg once I went to the gas station at like 6 AM because we were driving somewhere and I looked like **** and this really hot guy was at the cash register LMFAO I was so embarassed :laugh:

haha omg i love going to the supermarket at night.. i remember this one time i decided to go at like 2 am with my mom cuz she had to buy some medication thing and i was like.. mm maybe i should go now with no ppl around so that i can buy my toiletries and ****..

dude.. there I bumped into this group of 4 guys from my school and I was like trying to hide the pack of pads i'd just bought!! uggh it was soo embarrassing :laugh:

[love, alex.]

haha omg i love going to the supermarket at night.. i remember this one time i decided to go at like 2 am with my mom cuz she had to buy some medication thing and i was like.. mm maybe i should go now with no ppl around so that i can buy my toiletries and ****..

dude.. there I bumped into this group of 4 guys from my school and I was like trying to hide the pack of pads i'd just bought!! uggh it was soo embarrassing :laugh:

:laugh: omg I remember once when I was at my friends house we were SO HYPER and we snuck out to walmart and omg lmfaoo I was like strutting down the isles like a model and we were having cart races and it was SO ****ING FUN :laugh:

I make my mom pick up my pads lmao I ain't going where anyone can see me when I'm buying that type of stuff :laugh:

[FairyWings]

Lol who knows, they might look like **** too! Bill would probably be in sweats with no make up, praying you didn't recognize him haha, but it would be fun, like a pajama party!

hahah omfg i'd totally ask to take a picture with him :laugh:

and be like "don't worry i'll phooshop your face" :laugh:

[love, alex.]

Lol who knows, they might look like **** too! Bill would probably be in sweats with no make up, praying you didn't recognize him haha, but it would be fun, like a pajama party!

oooh slumber party! I call doing the nails! :laugh:

[FairyWings]

lmao I always came back in the *****IEST mood ever! I'd like stomp in and start yelling at my mom :laugh: "what the **** mom? God I don't want to go to a stupid therapist, it isn't helping! I don't wanna freaking talk about it and he's MAKING me!"
and he was all buff too so I was so scared he was gonna slap me if I didn't talk :laugh:
my sisters didn't have to go though. lucky *****es haha.

dude tell me about it i hated going to therapy i was always making up excuses not to go lol..

it was just a waste of time and money. and the funniest thing was we wanted to hecka squeeze the brains out of each other but we couldn't do it there so once we got home the real fight started :laugh:

[Snowie]

haha omg i love going to the supermarket at night.. i remember this one time i decided to go at like 2 am with my mom cuz she had to buy some medication thing and i was like.. mm maybe i should go now with no ppl around so that i can buy my toiletries and ****..

dude.. there I bumped into this group of 4 guys from my school and I was like trying to hide the pack of pads i'd just bought!! uggh it was soo embarrassing :laugh: My friend George found a pack of pads in the calssroom and said "JAZLYNN ARE THESE YOURS!!!!" all out loud
we all knew she was on but he didn't have to say it

[love, alex.]

dude tell me about it i hated going to therapy i was always making up excuses not to go lol..

it was just a waste of time and money. and the funniest thing was we wanted to hecka squeeze the brains out of each other but we couldn't do it there so once we got home the real fight started :laugh:

lmao my mom always had to DRAG me in the building :laugh: and I'd listen to music while he was talking secretly and look like I'm listening, but he found out and took it away til the end of the nice little session :laugh:

[FairyWings]

:laugh: omg I remember once when I was at my friends house we were SO HYPER and we snuck out to walmart and omg lmfaoo I was like strutting down the isles like a model and we were having cart races and it was SO ****ING FUN :laugh:

I make my mom pick up my pads lmao I ain't going where anyone can see me when I'm buying that type of stuff :laugh:

haha that's so cool

ugh no my mom makes me go buy my stuff lol..it's so embarrassing trying to pick stuff and sometimes dudes walk by and I look at them like "what the **** are yo doing in this aisle?" :laugh:

[love, alex.]

haha that's so cool

ugh no my mom makes me go buy my stuff lol..it's so embarrassing trying to pick stuff and sometimes dudes walk by and I look at them like "what the **** are yo doing in this aisle?" :laugh:

lmaoo I remember the first time I had to go bra shopping.... I was trying to look at them real fast and pick the ones so we could get out of there and all of the sudden I see a guy there :laugh: I don't know if his girlfriend was somewhere or he was some sick pervert but I glared at him like "get out of here dude!" :laugh:

[FairyWings]

My friend George found a pack of pads in the calssroom and said "JAZLYNN ARE THESE YOURS!!!!" all out loud
we all knew she was on but he didn't have to say it

lmaoo that's MESSED up!!

stupid guys are lucky they don't get periods lol

I should point it out next time I see a guy getting a boner so they shut up about our period already :laugh:

and haha i used to daydream about hella things during therapy or look at the drawings on the walls lol maybe that's why those sessions never worked :laugh:

[FairyWings]

lmaoo I remember the first time I had to go bra shopping.... I was trying to look at them real fast and pick the ones so we could get out of there and all of the sudden I see a guy there :laugh: I don't know if his girlfriend was somewhere or he was some sick pervert but I glared at him like "get out of here dude!" :laugh:

hahaha oh the first time bra shopping.. i made my mom bring home this lady who sold lengerie and normal underwear the first time.. it was a good idea, too! no embarrassing moments in public! lol

[love, alex.]

lmaoo that's MESSED up!!

stupid guys are lucky they don't get periods lol

I should point it out next time I see a guy getting a boner so they shut up about our period already :laugh:

and haha i used to daydream about hella things during therapy or look at the drawings on the walls lol maybe that's why those sessions never worked :laugh:

ooh I do that when thier voice cracks when they're going through puberty :laugh: they get so embarassed lmao.


I remember when me and my lovely therapist got in a fight... haha he lost it and we were both screaming at each other :laugh: the thing is I'm way stubborn so I didn't stop yelling and I ended up losing my voice haha

[love, alex.]

hahaha oh the first time bra shopping.. i made my mom bring home this lady who sold lengerie and normal underwear the first time.. it was a good idea, too! no embarrassing moments in public! lol

haha we had to go to the mall... the one where everyone I know goes to so I was all "omg :oops: lets get out of heeeere :oops:" haha.

[Snowie]

ooh I do that when thier voice cracks when they're going through puberty :laugh: they get so embarassed lmao.


I remember when me and my lovely therapist got in a fight... haha he lost it and we were both screaming at each other :laugh: the thing is I'm way stubborn so I didn't stop yelling and I ended up losing my voice haha I did that with my therapist she got really red them i started LMAO and that made it worse

[love, alex.]

I did that with my therapist she got really red them i started LMAO and that made it worse

haha :laugh: he kept asking me about something I really didn't wanna talk about so I was all "shut. the. ****. UP. I DON'T wanna talk about it so SHUT UP and do NOT call me honey cause I'm not your daughter OR your girlfriend you sick pervert. my name is ALEX and that's what you'll call me from now on or I won't answer you, douche." and LMAOO he totally got all red and was like "you can't talk to me like that I'm going to call your mother!" haha I got mad too and started yelling "who cares call my mom it's not like she'll do anything!" :laugh: the owner had to come in because we were so loud haha.

[FairyWings]

haha we had to go to the mall... the one where everyone I know goes to so I was all "omg :oops: lets get out of heeeere :oops:" haha.

haha omg that sux i never did that with my mom cuz she's the loud type "omg look at this how cute, no but your boobs are too small for it!"

she did that to my sister :laugh: she was the one who adviced me not to go out bra shopping with her. :laugh:

[love, alex.]

haha omg that sux i never did that with my mom cuz she's the loud type "omg look at this how cute, no but your boobs are too small for it!"

she did that to my sister :laugh: she was the one who adviced me not to go out bra shopping with her. :laugh:

my mom threatened to do that if I didn't quit crawling around so I wouldn't be seen :laugh: I swear I'm just going to buy my daughters bras for herself until she's old enough not to care lol I'm saving her the embarassment :laugh:

[vatefairefoutre]

HAHAHA what.

they should party with my ACDC/Nirvana/Alice Cooper loving grandma Susie who wants to get a matching tatt with me soon. she's the strangest/coolest old person I know. all she does is drink coffee and listen to the radio too. :laugh:

[love, alex.]

HAHAHA what.

they should party with my ACDC/Nirvana/Alice Cooper loving grandma Susie who wants to get a matching tatt with me soon. she's the strangest/coolest old person I know. all she does is drink coffee and listen to the radio too. :laugh:

oh I want your grandma :laugh: all mine does is listen to country and ***** about politics haha.

[Snowie]

oh I want your grandma :laugh: all mine does is listen to country and ***** about politics haha.
All my grandma does is watch news i'm suprised she doesn't watch anything that says news

[love, alex.]

All my grandma does is watch news i'm suprised she doesn't watch anything that says news

oh she does that too :laugh: our grandmas are laaaame haha.

[Snowie]

oh she does that too :laugh: our grandmas are laaaame haha.
Well she isn't lame exept when it comes to when i want to do something with her. its always "wait til the news goes off""can't you see i'm watching the news"

[love, alex.]

Well she isn't lame exept when it comes to when i want to do something with her. its always "wait til the news goes off""can't you see i'm watching the news"

haha oh well mine is :laugh: she's kinda obnoxious when it comes to politics and such so I ignore her then haha.

[vatefairefoutre]

HAHA you should hear when the three generations that is me, my mother, and my grandma get together. we're all so similar yet so different and have hilarious conversations and arguments :laugh:

and then my other grandma is a little more normal and listens to oldies and stuff but I've watched Borat with her. so I guess she's still not a 'normal' grandma :laugh:

[love, alex.]

HAHA you should hear when the three generations that is me, my mother, and my grandma get together. we're all so similar yet so different and have hilarious conversations and arguments :laugh:

and then my other grandma is a little more normal and listens to oldies and stuff but I've watched Borat with her. so I guess she's still not a 'normal' grandma :laugh:

haha I'm very different from my grandma and mom so we have no cool and hilarious conversations :laugh: it's quite akward actually LMFAO.


I have no other grandma lol. I didn't talk to her much either because she only spoke Greek and really broken English so it was difficult to have a conversation :laugh:

[vatefairefoutre]

HAHA oh my god it's like my grandma will be all like "jesusssss christ! don't you listen to any music you can understand in English?!?!" and I'm like "NO! hahaha" and she's still a little bitter about me getting a tattoo before she did. and she's totally like anti-man too. :laugh:


and wtf in that interview did Bill say he 'never wants to grow up' yet he's 'always felt older'? jeeeez make up your mind! such a contradiction. :laugh:

[FairyWings]

HAHA oh my god it's like my grandma will be all like "jesusssss christ! don't you listen to any music you can understand in English?!?!" and I'm like "NO! hahaha" and she's still a little bitter about me getting a tattoo before she did. and she's totally like anti-man too. :laugh:


and wtf in that interview did Bill say he 'never wants to grow up' yet he's 'always felt older'? jeeeez make up your mind! such a contradiction. :laugh:

lmao i know.. that made no sense :laugh:

and lmfao one of my grandma's is like that.. she cracks feminist jokes all the time :laugh:

[love, alex.]

my grandma doesn't know what I listen too :laugh: I think she prefers not too haha.



:laugh: I started laughing when he said "**** it" for some reason because he doesn't swear much in interveiws :laugh:

[Snowie]

My grandma is all "why are listening to that german ****"

[love, alex.]

My grandma is all "why are listening to that german ****"

that's more my mom :laugh: but she says calling thier music **** is too nice for them haha.

[tokiohotelcrazy08]

HAHA oh my god it's like my grandma will be all like "jesusssss christ! don't you listen to any music you can understand in English?!?!" and I'm like "NO! hahaha" and she's still a little bitter about me getting a tattoo before she did. and she's totally like anti-man too. :laugh:


and wtf in that interview did Bill say he 'never wants to grow up' yet he's 'always felt older'? jeeeez make up your mind! such a contradiction. :laugh:

Wow Char, that's the same thing I was hung up over. I was like "huh". lol

[Snowie]

that's more my mom :laugh: but she says calling thier music **** is too nice for them haha. One reason she calls it **** is because she doesn't like the twins

[love, alex.]

One reason she calls it **** is because she doesn't like the twins

my mom only likes Gustav. why? he doesn't talk and he's the only normal one :laugh: she HATES Tom though.
because you know, he's always stealin' **** from old ladies and killin' people apparantly :laugh: Tom's so thug LMAO.

[FairyWings]

My grandma is all "why are listening to that german ****"

lmfaooo

my grandma has no idea what i listen to.. actually not many people do.. they probably think i like miley cyrus or something haha :laugh:

she'd have no idea, anyway.. at her house they only listen like Mexican regional music which sounds a lot like Bavarian folk music lmfao :laugh:

[Snowie]

my mom only likes Gustav. why? he doesn't talk and he's the only normal one :laugh: she HATES Tom though.
because you know, he's always stealin' **** from old ladies and killin' people apparantly :laugh: Tom's so thug LMAO. yea she only likes Gustav because Georg has too much hair Bill looks like a girl and Tom acts black too much

[love, alex.]

lmfaooo

my grandma has no idea what i listen to.. actually not many people do.. they probably think i like miley cyrus or something haha :laugh:

she'd have no idea, anyway.. at her house they only listen like Mexican regional music which sounds a lot like Bavarian folk music lmfao :laugh:

my grandma probably thinks I like country :laugh: when I don't lmfao.

[love, alex.]

yea she only likes Gustav because Georg has too much hair Bill looks like a girl and Tom acts black too much

haha :laugh: Georg looks like he belongs on a romance novel cover, and that he's a woman beater, Bill looks like a gay fag and I should never bring him home, Tom looks like a serial killer LMFAO and I shouldn't bring him home either.



I don't know what I'm doing with them anyways so why would I bring them home? :laugh:

[FairyWings]

haha only my mom gets to hear more what i listen to and she's always like "turn that demonic thing down" when i'm listening to like schrei :laugh:

she's lucky i dont listen to screamo lmfao

[Snowie]

I don't give a **** what she or my friends say
I don't call then weird for listening to Cinema Bizarre. do I Nein

[dejavu711]

my mom only likes Gustav. why? he doesn't talk and he's the only normal one :laugh: she HATES Tom though.
because you know, he's always stealin' **** from old ladies and killin' people apparantly :laugh: Tom's so thug LMAO.

Yeah. Tom is so G.
XD

[vatefairefoutre]

Wow Char, that's the same thing I was hung up over. I was like "huh". lol

Bill doesn't know what he's talking about. like usual. HAHAHA just kidding. :laugh:

[cathay]

yea she only likes Gustav because Georg has too much hair Bill looks like a girl and Tom acts black too much Clearly explanation :laugh: No way :shock1:! :laugh:

[TheCrazyStalkerChick]

HAHAHA what.

they should party with my ACDC/Nirvana/Alice Cooper loving grandma Susie who wants to get a matching tatt with me soon. she's the strangest/coolest old person I know. all she does is drink coffee and listen to the radio too. :laugh:

Suuuper cool grandma!

The coolest old person I know is my school bus driver, Henry. He always wears these awesome shades and a leather jacket. He let's just walk around while the bus is moving and lets us eat and we even had a water fight on the bus XDD He blasts the radio really loud and one time, 'Enter Sandman' by Metallica came on and he turned the radio up full blast and screamed 'THIS IS THE BEST SONG THEY'VE PLAYED ON THE RADIO SO FAR!' and we were singing along to the song :laughs:

[FairyWings]

Suuuper cool grandma!

The coolest old person I know is my school bus driver, Henry. He always wears these awesome shades and a leather jacket. He let's just walk around while the bus is moving and lets us eat and we even had a water fight on the bus XDD He blasts the radio really loud and one time, 'Enter Sandman' by Metallica came on and he turned the radio up full blast and screamed 'THIS IS THE BEST SONG THEY'VE PLAYED ON THE RADIO SO FAR!' and we were singing along to the song :laughs:

haha that's so awesome.. i've always thought after retiring or something i'm gonna get one of those jobs like school bus driver or get an ice cream truck just so that i can interact with young people lol

[TheCrazyStalkerChick]

haha only my mom gets to hear more what i listen to and she's always like "turn that demonic thing down" when i'm listening to like schrei :laugh:

she's lucky i dont listen to screamo lmfao

LMAO. My mom took one look at the Tokio Hotel poster I have in my room and said 'He looks like a monster' and pointed at Bill.

My mom would freak out if she found out I have Brokencyde on my iPod.

[TheCrazyStalkerChick]

haha that's so awesome.. i've always thought after retiring or something i'm gonna get one of those jobs like school bus driver or get an ice cream truck just so that i can interact with young people lol

I would so do that too. I'd be the bus driver who's blasting AC/DC and owns a motercycle. Which my bus driver also has, a freaking motorcycle XD

[FairyWings]

haha i know seriously.. i've always thought about this since i don't think i could completely retire.. or maybe i'd travel the world once i'm done lol but i want to keep in contact with young people.. it makes you feel rejuvenated (is that a word? lol)

i've also thought about subbing in schools but maybe not.. i don't think i could focus on what i'm supposed to be doing and just talk all class long or let the kids do whatever haha

[TheCrazyStalkerChick]

haha i know seriously.. i've always thought about this since i don't think i could completely retire.. or maybe i'd travel the world once i'm done lol but i want to keep in contact with young people.. it makes you feel rejuvenated (is that a word? lol)

i've also thought about subbing in schools but maybe not.. i don't think i could focus on what i'm supposed to be doing and just talk all class long or let the kids do whatever haha

Oh God, I'd NEVER sub. My class switched our names when we had a sub once and she still doesn't know >.< We're **** for subs.

[Babbity Rabbity]

:laugh: and for their 21st birthday they're going to play bingo while sipping prune juice and stale cookies! :laugh:

hahaha :laugh:
that just reminded me of a birthday party i went to yesterday. I went to the party with my friend Joey and my sister Andrea because an old acquaintance from work was turning 40... and we all wore black to mourn :laugh:
anyways his presents consisted of prune juice, a papa smurf doll... and we got him some denture adhensive cream and a full bingo set with the little spinny wheel with the balls in it :laugh:

[dejavu711]

:laugh: and for their 21st birthday they're going to play bingo while sipping prune juice and stale cookies! :laugh:

HAHAHAHA! And playing cricket!!!

[Babbity Rabbity]

i love how intelligent and self-aware those boys are XD

[Winter]

:laugh: this is way to cute.

[ray_ray2384]

Narcissists always think they're smarter than psychologists, which is why they say there is no cure for narcissism. Therapy would do either of them no good.

Anyway, I really liked this interview. I think this is one of the most revealing interviews they've done in quite some time and I can definitely appreciate that.

Edit: I meant to comment on the old people thing, but I forgot after I started reading the full interview. I think that's extremely unusual for twenty-year-olds to want to have a party where all the attendees are above the age of 60. It is so rare for anybody to see the elderly as their equals, and that is very commendable. I don't know if I'd be able to do that, just because being around the elderly sometimes makes me cry. Lol, don't ask.



I believe the twins enjoy the company of those who are much older than them because they do not have to be someone they are not. They can be themselves and be appreciated. Plus, older ppl have life experience and most of the time, can see past the bluff and not fall for it.

[rockerme]

Im a coffee freak i luv it and drink it everyday!

[love, alex.]

Im a coffee freak i luv it and drink it everyday!

I've never had coffee :laugh: I fail haha.

[vatefairefoutre]

old people have good stories!

my mom works at a nursing home... so yeah I'm always hearing interesting stories. hahaha

so yeah I agree old people can be cool in a way but still I think I much prefer partying with my friends that are my age LMFAO those twins are strange. :laugh:

[TheCrazyStalkerChick]

I've never had coffee :laugh: I fail haha.

My dad got me into drinking coffee when I was 11 >.<

[rockerme]

I've never had coffee :laugh: I fail haha.

u never had coffee?,my friends hate it,but i luv it thats y im always hyper!lol

[FairyWings]

when I read that they went into the toys' section and bought all of it I cracked up but at the same time it makes me a bit sad for them..

I know I've said this before but imagine how deprived of a normal childhood/adolescence they must have been to go into a store and buy kids' stuff.. seriously when I compare it to myself for example i'd never even look back at the toy's section lol.. i bet inside there's some kind of emptiness from starting to work at such young age that now they try to fill it up by doing things like these..

at least they're still kids at heart lol that's very adorable.

[love, alex.]

My dad got me into drinking coffee when I was 11 >.<

I SWEAR to GOD I fail SO MUCH at stuff. I've never had coffee, I look younger than I am, I just FAIL :laugh:

[love, alex.]

u never had coffee?,my friends hate it,but i luv it thats y im always hyper!lol

oh I'm just hyper by nature :cool: I can be calm though LMFAO.

[love, alex.]

when I read that they went into the toys' section and bought all of it I cracked up but at the same time it makes me a bit sad for them..

I know I've said this before but imagine how deprived of a normal childhood/adolescence they must have been to go into a store and buy kids' stuff.. seriously when I compare it to myself for example i'd never even look back at the toy's section lol.. i bet inside there's some kind of emptiness from starting to work at such young age that now they try to fill it up by doing things like these..

at least they're still kids at heart lol that's very adorable.

oh, well when you put it like that :laugh: I thought they were just being childish and immature, but now you got me thinking haha.

[rockerme]

oh, well when you put it like that :laugh: I thought they were just being childish and immature, but now you got me thinking haha.

i'll always be a kid no matter what!its good 2 always be a kid and have fun!

[ray_ray2384]

Bill/Tom had to adjust to adult responsibilites at a very young age. So, they didn't have a regular childhood like other 13-15yr olds. So, in a sense, they may want to keep holding on to that innoncence. But, they also realize that the experiences they've gone through has matured them beyond their years.

So, yes, they don't want to grow up, they want to have mindless fun, be silly/goof around. But, they realize that they have responsibilities to take care of, they have to be adults, make decisions everyday and maintain their careers.

[mollie]

Also on tour, all bands buy toys and goof up. No matter how old they are. Ppl the same age as their parents do that because touring can be so mindnummingly boring.

[FairyWings]

yeah.. and the good thing is.. they know what they're doing and they know how to get around.. but also find time to just goof off and be kids..^^

[ray_ray2384]

i also find it admirable that the twins have respect for their elders.

you don't find many young people who truly respect the older generation.

[midnight_epiphany]

i also find it admirable that the twins have respect for their elders.

you don't find many young people who truly respect the older generation.

And that's a shame. They've already passed down this part of the road of life and have so much knowledge and experience to share. Old people are the coolest. (I should know!) :mrgreen: :laugh:

[ichxliebeTOKiOHOTEL]

ill be sure to stop by my local wal-mart at 4 am in the morning when TH is in town ;)

[vatefairefoutre]

my mom works in a nursing home! and yeah it is sad. but you know... they've lived their long lives and had many good times and it's just slowly dwindling down like what happens to everyone eventually. I don't get myself worked up over it cuz it's just what naturally happens and we can't really do much about people's lives fading away. *shrugs*

I kinda get freaked out in a way when I'm there because like... there's all these like extremely fragile people around and it's like if you poke them their arms would break or something and they could die at any instant. it like... overwhelms me kinda. but most of them are nice though.

[vatefairefoutre]

yeah I know. it sucks. but idk at least you still lived many good years where you did remember and you didn't end up dying in a car crash and are fortunate enough to have made it to such an age where you even get conditions like that! idk I don't like focusing on the bad of things like that. especially when you can't control it. you know?

I'm gettin DEEP. lmao

[midnight_epiphany]

OMG YES! That's always why old people make me cry! It's so retarded! We were watching some old home movies shot by my grandfather when he and my grandmother were young parents, and I just bawled my eyes out. It just seemed so unfair that they are so trapped in these aging bodies and minds when they were no different than I have ever been. I hate watching them forget things and turn into different people. It breaks my heart. There's nothing more painful than watching a grandparent slowly forget who you are. It's just not fair. My great-grandmother lives in a nursing home, and I never visit her because she doesn't remember me and I can't handle being around all these people who are barely fragments of what they used to be. It just... seems so wrong that they should be allowed to forget the people they love and care about most. :(

*hugs Lynelle*

[vatefairefoutre]

That's good you can focus on the positive though and live more in the moment.

haha yeah. I try most of the time.

[Nemo]

I've never managed to follow the phrase "live for today" or "live for the moment". I dunno, I've always kinda been in tomorrow before today even began, if you get my drift. :laugh: Like, I can already start worrying myself over something twenty years on, not that I know what it would be, but I can imagine it, judging by the life I want in my head. I can't just press pause on my brain and say "right, one day at a time, one second at a time"... I'm always on fast-forward. :laugh:

[FairyWings]

I've never managed to follow the phrase "live for today" or "live for the moment". I dunno, I've always kinda been in tomorrow before today even began, if you get my drift. :laugh: Like, I can already start worrying myself over something twenty years on, not that I know what it would be, but I can imagine it, judging by the life I want in my head. I can't just press pause on my brain and say "right, one day at a time, one second at a time"... I'm always on fast-forward. :laugh:

I totally understand.. I live the same way.. I kinda hate it but I can't help it.. it's the way i've been brought up.. you do stuff now so later on you'll have a better life.. the problem is that "later on" never comes.. at least not now.. I wish I could just stop time for a moment.. but that feeling won't go away at least till I get out of school.. cuz there it's always like "if you prepare well and study enough you'll have a bright future" and that's just the way we roll everyday..SUCKS! lol

[midnight_epiphany]

but that feeling won't go away at least till I get out of school.. cuz there it's always like "if you prepare well and study enough you'll have a bright future" and that's just the way we roll everyday..SUCKS! lol

And after you're out of school it's work hard and save for your retirement, and then you worry about your long term care, etc. It never ends. Hope I didn't depress you.

Here, let's help celebrate Tom and Bill's birthday and share some coffee and cakes. :smile:

http://www.coffeehousemystery.com/UserFiles/Image/CoffeeWithHeart(1).jpg

http://http.cdnlayer.com/smoola/00/00/81/ebfec35d8bc0aca6_m.jpg

[FairyWings]

of course not! i'm totally motivated now! retirement saving..woot! lol

and mmhh that looks yummy =9

[love, alex.]

And after you're out of school it's work hard and save for your retirement, and then you worry about your long term care, etc. It never ends. Hope I didn't depress you.

Here, let's help celebrate Tom and Bill's birthday and share some coffee and cakes. :smile:

http://www.coffeehousemystery.com/UserFiles/Image/CoffeeWithHeart(1).jpg

http://http.cdnlayer.com/smoola/00/00/81/ebfec35d8bc0aca6_m.jpg

what in God's name is that green thing? :laugh:

[Winter]

Yummm I want some of that...

[midnight_epiphany]

what in God's name is that green thing? :laugh:

I'm going to guess something with pistachio. They're often green, no idea why.

http://cooklikemad.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/rose-cake-final.jpg

http://www.gulfcoastlivingonline.com/St-Pat-pistachio-cake-03-09.gif

I really need to stop posting pictures of sweets when I'm hungry. I just make it worse. :roll:

[VanessaM]

Bump. This is a very nice interview.

It's already September 1 somewhere in the world.

[VanessaM]

Do you have psychological support for such times?
Tom: The psychological care comes from our family and friends. I would imagine maybe getting professional help, but we have no time.
Bill: When people do that, I can understand it. The problem is, I believe that it doesn’t always help.
Tom: I also always think I’m smarter than the psychologist himself
Bill: Exactly. I would be like; All of what I’m telling you I’m telling you deliberately, because it’s my problem. And then the psychologist would say: Yes, you need time to think about it. And then I think to myself: Yeah great, I also knew before.

That sounds more like something a high school guidance counselor would say than what a competent therapist would say, Bill. But either way, I'm not a fan of cognitive therapy. Dialectical behaviorism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_behavior_therapy) FTW!

[Amdee]

I wish them happy bday only when it's time in Germany, I guess...

But maybe they have this coffee party this time? It can happen.

[Amdee]

That sounds more like something a high school guidance counselor would say than what a competent therapist would say, Bill. But either way, I'm not a particular fan of cognitive therapy. Dialectical behaviorism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_behavior_therapy) FTW!

Oh, I would LOVE to have some discussion over this! maybe I just don't, because i'm too tired right now to get passionate, but anyway.

I veryu strongly recommend them not to underestimate psychologists... I think they (and actually everyone) could use som,e sometimes.

I'm not the best person to say, because I don't believe in therapyt's or other psychological help's blind awesomeness in every situation, but with a right and a good professional help & right attitude (the most important) it does miracles. In much different way than family & friends, though, but it's not trying to replace those at all.

I believe cognitive therapy works only with part of the people,mostly very practical ones. I don't think it will do much on very analytical people.

But I'm not a "shrink" myself, so I don't go into that any deeper.

[VanessaM]

Oh, I would LOVE to have some discussion over this! maybe I just don't, because i'm too tired right now to get passionate, but anyway.

I veryu strongly recommend them not to underestimate psychologists... I think they (and actually everyone) could use som,e sometimes.
Yes, absolutely. Though I have a friend who was clearly smarter and more awesome than his therapist. Sometimes you have to shop around before you find the right match.


I'm not the best person to say, because I don't believe in therapyt's or other psychological help's blind awesomeness in every situation, but with a right and a good professional help & right attitude (the most important) it does miracles. In much different way than family & friends, though, but it's not trying to replace those at all.
Agreed.


I believe cognitive therapy works only with part of the people,mostly very practical ones. I don't think it will do much on very analytical people.
I think cognitive therapy is best for people who are struggling to figure out why they're doing the things they're doing or feeling what they're feeling. For people who are more self-aware, it's fairly useless. Even your standard Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy is too cognitively-oriented for my tastes.

[Nats]

I think what is good about therapy is when you talk to someone about your problems and they are professional, they often spot the root of the issue when you haven't. Sometimes even your common old rants can reveal alot about what the heart of the problem is. I think saying things like "you are just jealous" is not valid, because I think jealousy on its own isn't a solid thing, it's got underlying reasons and causes for showing. At the end of it, it's often such a simple thing which you may never have thought of. A simple incident, something someone said, snowballs into what can be horrible insecurities.


For instance, I thought about it, doing my own form of therapy, and I discovered that the reason I have such crappy insecurities and such a self loathing is because I used to hear my mum make snide comments about my sister when she looked at herself in the mirror and when I'd spend time trying to make myself pretty or put any effort. She'd say things like "I love me, who do you love?" or "Tarting up for the boys" and I think eventually she made me feel that it's wrong to feel pretty or feel anything worthy about yourself. It's wrong to think that you aren't that bad after all. And if I hadn't figured that out, I'd never have thought of those moments, but I still don't know how to deal with it.


/very pointless.

[Babbity Rabbity]

I wish them happy bday only when it's time in Germany, I guess...

But maybe they have this coffee party this time? It can happen.

coffee with the Bunnies at the Playboy Mansion? :laugh: :laugh:

[VanessaM]

I think what is good about therapy is when you talk to someone about your problems and they are professional, they often spot the root of the issue when you haven't. Sometimes even your common old rants can reveal alot about what the heart of the problem is. I think saying things like "you are just jealous" is not valid, because I think jealousy on its own isn't a solid thing, it's got underlying reasons and causes for showing. At the end of it, it's often such a simple thing which you may never have thought of. A simple incident, something someone said, snowballs into what can be horrible insecurities.


For instance, I thought about it, doing my own form of therapy, and I discovered that the reason I have such crappy insecurities and such a self loathing is because I used to hear my mum make snide comments about my sister when she looked at herself in the mirror and when I'd spend time trying to make myself pretty or put any effort. She'd say things like "I love me, who do you love?" or "Tarting up for the boys" and I think eventually she made me feel that it's wrong to feel pretty or feel anything worthy about yourself. It's wrong to think that you aren't that bad after all. And if I hadn't figured that out, I'd never have thought of those moments, but I still don't know how to deal with it.


/very pointless.
It's not pointless. Understanding the things you do and feel is the first step to not reacting automatically. Just what the doctor Bill recommends!

[Nats]

Yep! I just have the problem that I know what my problems are but I just sweep them under the rug and hope they go away; I'm not very good at dealing with things, I tend to run away from them. Hope they don't catch up but they have a knack of getting ahead of me. I'm a lazy, unmotivated, undisciplined person. A disgrace to the army, in any case. :laugh: I have no inner strength yet I am excellent at advising my friends and being insightful on them. Kinda ironic.

[VanessaM]

^I can totally relate!